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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 72 points 3 months ago (27 children)

Meanwhile, in the real 2024, a lot of homeless people would probably prefer being put into a sanctuary district than having their very existence made illegal and cops either clearing them out or arresting them wherever they went.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When the actual future dystopia is worse than the one that writers came up with.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Kevin Spacey is a monster and I hate him like Weinstein, but he has one of the most salient moments on Colbert’s Late Show from eight years ago (after the Trump joke):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawmR6ZGxM0

[–] GuyFleegman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

Shit man they had universal healthcare in Star Trek's 2024. In Star Trek's 2024 the tech billionaire decided to help the homeless. We're doing worse in the real world than what Star Trek depicted as being near the absolute nadir of human society.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 64 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll riot a bit just to be safe.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

PnRTreatYoSelf.gif

since I can't insert a gif from my keyboard.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[–] SARGE@startrek.website 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The fact that even when trying to be dystopian as fuck, depressingly bad, showcasing the worst decisions that the more aggressive (and let's be honest, savage by comparison) people of the past, they give humanity WAY too much credit.

Not a chance in hell anyone would create special areas for homeless people unless there were some ulterior motive. Because even though the cost of housing and programs to educate, therapy to help with any issues stemming from homelessness or mental disorders (including many that you will likely get just from being homeless that never showed up before) and substance abuse problems (that again, likely were not present pre-homelessness) is WAY lower than what we pay to "deal with it" the way we do, everyone just kind of seems okay with how the homeless get treated.

And when you are watching 27 different angles of a bunch of people filming cops going around beating homeless people and dragging out of tents by their hair in order to burn them down with all the possessions inside, and nobody fucking lifts a finger to help those being opressed, it really winks in that maybe we don't deserve to make it past the bell riots.

Because even the shitty oppressive government of a fictional universe where most governments are completely changed, gone or barely dangling by a thread is a hell of a lot better than the shit we're stuck with.

[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

I feel like DS9 imagined a 2024 where liberals had morphed into champagne socialists, providing a social safety net to assuage guilt for their treatment of the people disadvantaged by society but keeping them out of sight. In reality the liberal parties stymie the left and work to keep government moving to the right so that the basic safety net never gets implemented. Instead we have neoliberals and party liners still obsessed with reaching across the aisle and shaking hands with those who would advocate for a 'final solution' to homelessness before voting to feed them. Thats not just America, look at Macron too.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

There's assuming the percentage of homeless people is not threatening to create a rebellion. Increase the number to tipping point like 30% of all people and it will make sense.

By the way that's the goal of capitalism in a round about way - accumulate more money by fewer people. And it's getting it's way.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm heading up to the mountains for camping this weekend, just to be safe.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Remember to bring your emergency comms system. The mountains can be treacherous.

[–] thessnake03@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I thought it was super easy in the future

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Just rip it out of the bulkhead and push it up the mountain.

[–] Kintarian@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Me too. I plan to make some coffee and watch the world burn.

[–] ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

I do like my coffee hot....

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And all Japan gets on Sunday is a lousy typhoon.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

You could always move to (northern)Tohoku... not as many jobs but at least the typhoons and quakes are rare.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If we get a star trec future out of it... I say it's worth it

[–] teft@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's the attitude we want around here!

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, the end justifying all means is an attitude I'd expect from lemmygrad, not from here. I know, that's not how you put it, but think about it that way

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"The ends justify the means" is an argument often used by people that know the thing that they're doing is pretty awful, and are trying to come up with some kind of hand waving justification.

But as a thought process it isn't bad in and of itself. Every time you undergo surgery it's because the ends justify the means.

It could be more favorably expressed as "short-term pain, long-term gain".

[–] Naura@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Inaction is being complicit especially when it comes to fighting oppression.

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

And power structures reproduce themselves. Unity of means and ends is crucial when you don't want to just build a new oppressive system

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

i heard this image

[–] MajorasMaskForever@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

God dammit, I lost my ocarina!

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