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Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said he isn’t buying all that Democratic “joy” on display at this past week’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago during a Sunday appearance with Jake Tapper on CNN’s State of the Union.

During their conversation, Tapper brought up the “disciplined” and “well-produced” DNC this week that, as the journalist put it, “conveyed patriotism and unity.” Graham didn’t see it that way.

“Well, I didn’t see what you saw,” Graham told Tapper with a laugh. “If you’re a Republican, you saw a hate fest. You saw a hate fest full of insults.”

“Americans are not joyful when they go to the gas station and fill up their car,” he continued. “They’re not joyful when they make their mortgage payment. They’re not joyful when they go to the grocery store. People are hurting, and this whole joy love fest doesn’t exist in the real world.”

To bolster his claim, Graham pointed to the gas prices, the state of the border, and inflation during Donald Trump’s presidency when “the world was not on fire.”

He's either lying or what he said gives us a look into his shitty perspective of the world. Either way such a miserable and pathetic existence.

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[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 203 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I think this is a great example of how a conservative mind views the world.

They are never happy or joyfull, its always a struggle and you fight for an idea despite you hating all of it. The idea that your life is not filled by misery is alien to them.

At this point being conservative is just akin to mental illness. Destructive, depressed, delusional to themselves and others. If ever there was a real social contaigion, it would be this state of being.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 84 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I grew up in a pretty conservative household and we were literally raised that life is work and work is hell. By way of the transitive property, life = hell. It's taken a long time through various degrees of depression and I'm still not fully grown out of it.

But yes, the entire culture and identity is about being miserable and persevering through it, even if that means making yourself and everyone around you more miserable to justify the perseverance.

Like the saying "nothing good comes free." You could say the sunrise is free, but they'll argue it's not because you have to wake up early and waking up early is by necessity miserable so that the sunrise can be good. They're brainwashed into thinking the only way a good thing happens is through suffering. Except the truly lost ones who only see life as suffering.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

Wow.. yeah I grew up this way too. But I'm not sure I ever really put it all together the way you did just now. I'm gonna have to think on this.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As an extension, if the conservative sees something free that people need, they will try to monopolize that free thing and then sell it. They call this innovation.

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[–] kfchan@fedia.io 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could also be that any time Lindsey Graham enters a room, all the people around him become miserable, so that's why he thinks joy doesn't exist

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

It's hard to see any joy in the world when you're a closeted hate-mongerer who can't get laid for free.

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[–] GreenPlasticSushiGrass@moist.catsweat.com 102 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"This whole joy and love fest doesn't exist in the real world," said Lindsay Graham, from his mountaintop cave overlooking Whoville.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

"MEEMAW! GET THE SLED, WE'RE STEALING VOTES!"

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[–] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't wait for these dinosaurs to go extinct.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (19 children)

Be the asteroid you wish to see in the Yucatan.

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[–] LibertyLizard 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe if you're Lindsey Graham. Pretending to be something you're not and constantly sucking up to people who hate you to keep your job sounds miserable enough.

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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

The state of the border is due to Republican interference on that border bill specifically requested by Trump to keep it an issue this election, and Inflation performance was better overall when compared to other Western Nations during Biden's term and worse than during Trumps.

source

Republicans are full of shit when it comes to both issues.

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Republicans are full of shit.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To bolster his claim, Graham pointed to the gas prices, the state of the border

Lindsey? If you're so concerned with the border, why did you vote down the border security bill?

source on the legislation

source on Graham's vote on the motion where it was killed

You yourself are responsible now, Graham. You voted down legislation which would have addressed this. This is on you now.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Now who's miserable in their lives and wants to make the rest of the country miserable too?

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[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

People who are that deep in the closet usually do lack joy in their lives

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He's not wrong. But he doesn't mention his party is the reason for it.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 12 points 2 months ago

He's got the projection down though

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[–] exanime@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

What does it matter what Graham says? His word is literally worthless by his own account

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Projection. If he's not happy then how can anyone be?

during Donald Trump’s presidency when “the world was not on fire.”

Dude, where were you? Convenient amnesia? Ever heard Billy Joel's take on "the fire"?

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Joy is not easy.

Happy can be had for the cost of a hobby, or of a friend buying another round, or jamming another game onto the screen.

But as J. D. Salinger said: "The fact is always obvious much too late, but the most singular difference between happiness and joy is that happiness is a solid and joy is a liquid."

Happiness needs a vessel of a certain shape and size.

Joy can fill up anything finite.

Don't mock Graham for this. He is expressing his sadness even if he doesn't see it. Express sorrow for his lack of understanding of our time here.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

“Americans are not joyful when they go to the gas station and fill up their car,” he continued. “They’re not joyful when they make their mortgage payment. They’re not joyful when they go to the grocery store. People are hurting, and this whole joy love fest doesn’t exist in the real world.”

These are all great points, and he’s right! The problem is that the policies he and his party support are not helpful towards solving any of these issues.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago

What, banning books and preventing people from getting healthcare don’t bring down gas and grocery prices or interest rates? Surely you jest!

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 26 points 2 months ago

“Life is a joyless slog, and I do my best to help keep it that way.”

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

To be fair, that IS the face of a man who no longer believes that joy exists 🤷

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, poor guy... He sounds so sad and doesn't even realize he's the one causing the problems he's complaining about...

Oh well, we should probably put him out of his misery.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's really fucking dark coming from any legislator, but a rank and file GOP coming right out and saying it?

That's not just weird, that's inhuman or downright evil.

[–] Bakersfield@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

That's not just weird, that's inhuman or downright evil.

It's also a perfect example of psychological projection. He never feels joy and thinks everyone else feels the same way. His is a sad and pathetic existence.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago

Lindsey Graham proves that all conservatives are angry, hateful people and wants to make everyone else just like him.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

The Republican way of life, ladies and gentlemen.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Let me translate: The DNC was not joyful because it made MAGA fear and loath. He then pivots to project all this on the "American people" remembering that that's who he's supposed to care about.

Lindsey is a windsock; useful to see which way the wind is blowing.

[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Fucking asshole has the nerve to say the world wasn’t on fire during trumps presidency AND that trump is PRO-Life when he was perfectly ok with Covid as long as it was as gonna hurt cities and therefore Democrats more. Media motherfuckers need to start calling out this hypocrisy in real time.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

My take is that statement is perhaps the most authentic thing he ever said in his life. He wouldn't recognise joy of it went up to him and kissed him on the mouth.

He must be bewildered seeing all that happy emotion.

[–] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lady G needs a prostate massage, STAT! She’s lost the joy in her life!!!

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Resign and see how much joy suddenly appears

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

What a sad little creature.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

That’s why they didn’t want that student load debt pardon. Everybody must be miserable all the time.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Pretty much, anything he says can be dismissed with a subtle jerking-off motion.

Graham in 2016:

"I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."

Graham in 2020:

"I fully understand where President @realDonaldTrump is coming from. https://t.co/qlhtEwTCdX

As to my view of filling a Supreme Court vacancy in 2020, I’d encourage you to review these most recent statements.

NBC News https://t.co/wGnCdcpJjr

The Hill https://t.co/cagapf6S9t

The two biggest changes regarding the Senate and judicial confirmations that have occurred in the last decade have come from Democrats.

#1"

Source: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lindsey-graham-backpedals-saying-words-183103615.html

[–] soratoyuki@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

You know, fuck Trump, fuck Graham, and fuck every Republican. But:

Americans are not joyful when they go to the gas station and fill up their car,” he continued. “They’re not joyful when they make their mortgage payment. They’re not joyful when they go to the grocery store. People are hurting, and this whole joy love fest doesn’t exist in the real world.”

Is perfectly accurate. I get that everyone is excited about Harris, but lying to ourselves about the economy makes us look out of touch, at best. Most of us can't afford a down payment on a house. Most of us are a few missed paychecks away from homelessness. Most of us are one bad doctor's appointment away from bankruptcy. Most of us are drowning in student loans. Republicans absolutely want to make all of those worse, but pretending everything is fine is bullshit.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

No-one is pretending everything is perfect, but you also have to have a positive vision for the future. Having a whole convention bitching about stuff without solutions is not the path forward.

Democrats discussed ideas to make things better regarding the points Graham made, BUT it's the Republicans that are the major roadblock to any and all solutions.

Graham is the guy taking a massive shit in your living room and then complaining that the cleaning lady is too cheerful about cleaning up the room. And she's not fast enough... And she's to blame for making him take that dump.

Fuck all Republican politicans, they offer ZERO solutions to anything. All they do is stoke fear and division.

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

When would anyone, ever, be joyful in those activities? Is he saying that if Republicans took over, I would be ecstatic to pay my mortgage?

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Lady G sometimes dresses fancy and calls himself "Joy", this is just him continuing to be in the closet and deny the clear reality we all see.

When running for president, lindsey graham was once asked who his first lady would be, he replied... "Well my sister would be!"

Oh lindsey... Sweetie :(

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Not when you are a joyless cunt.

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