I left reddit with the API changes. Obviously, Lemmy isn't as good as reddit in many ways. It's still young and is much, much less popular. There's not a super niche community for everything like there is on Reddit. But the people on Lemmy are so much better. And the people on Reddit were honestly a pretty significant reason why I left too. The people here are just so much better to interact with most of the time. Glad you're here.
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I didn’t realize how bad Reddit had gotten until I tried Lemmy. It got toxic slowly enough that it snuck up on me. I’ll never go back.
I had to look something up and the answer was in Reddit. After I found what I was looking for I scrolled through my old subscribed communities and saw so much toxicity,. Not just in the people but the things I was subscribed to, r/relationships, AITA, even some of askReddit, it made me feel gross thinking that's what I scrolled through and interacted with every day.
It’s so much better (and easier, once you get used to it) to just give people the benefit of the doubt.
I think I read somewhere that Lemmy users are, on average, a bit older than Reddit users. To me, that just means that we’re more likely to have seen the worst that the web has to offer, and don’t want to reproduce it. Of course, we can still be trolls and idiots; it’s just less prevalent.
In my experience, people here are nicer than the people in, for example, r/politics. However, that's not saying much. I never commented in r/politics. I only commented in those niche communities that don't exist here and Lemmy is a big step down compared to them in terms of the quality of the discourse. (It helped that the communities I participated in would ban people for being rude.)
That's fair. I don't think it's really that the discourse is lower quality on the niche subjects but rather that it just doesn't exist most of the time. One of the consequences of being an early adopter.
Honestly when I used to used reddit during 2023 it was so toxic holy hell people here are so much nicer
It's so nice. I think it's because we're all early adopters.
Yeah lemmy is not that big compared to reddit
And it additionally has the benefit of all the instances. It makes it a lot harder for toxic people to amass as folks can spin up a new instance if it starts looking bad
Yeah but there is 2 instances that I don't like lemmy grad and hexbears
Unfortunately that is the downside. The toxic people can also make their own instance
That's an upside, be because it makes them easy to block
But you can also just block that instance.
yeah
For real, the userbase on Reddit was declining in quality for quite a long time, and that decline sharply increased (imo) after the Sacking of the API - largely because TONS of power users, especially in highly technical subs, were like “nah fuck this” and left (and, you know, stopped developing moderation tooling because Reddit effectively blocked non-tech-savvy users from using said tools with the API pricing change).
Do you have an email address associated with your account? I created my reddit account before email addresses were required. A couple weeks ago I received a site wide ban for unspecified reasons. On the main web site it just said that I had a permanent ban. But on old.reddit.com, it says "provide an email address to reactivate your account". So in my case the purpose of the ban was simply to force me to give them my email address, which I declined to do.
When a site makes me do that I use one of my domains with a certain four letter word in it beginning with F. I also have a very snarky hotmail account that every year or so I have to take over someones reddit account because they decided to use it. I guess if they force verification that will stop.
When a site makes me do that I use one of my domains with a certain four letter word in it beginning with F.
four.com?
I also have a very snarky hotmail account that every year or so I have to take over someones reddit account because they decided to use it.
That's very funny.
Whenever I get prompted for an unverified email address, for example to use wifi in a hotel, I always put x@x.com. Actually, come to think of it, x.com is the new twitter. I have been doing that for many years and never made the connection until now.
And nothing of value was lost
If you listen very, very carefully, you can hear the percentage of humans to bots on reddit tick that little bit higher
I was likewise banned for the crime of using a VPN and Reddit randomly deciding that was a breach of their ToS I guess. I appealed, but nobody answered.
They engage in all the illegal cross site tracking of course, so perhaps they linked you to some other site they don't like, like this one?
Could you elaborate on what illegal cross site tracking they're doing? How does it work?
One of the earlier methods was the share button image. That button lives on Reddit's server, and your browser might set the URL from the referer when it requests the image. It definitely has your IP, so they can try to tie that to an account.
When you click a link, it also likely has a referer URL of the page you came from. These are both things that the browser doesn't have to do
When you click share, they now often add URL params that track who shared the link and who clicks it
There's tons of methods, some you can shut down with a browser or add ons, some you
Why is that illegal? Sorry I'm not too knowledgeable on the topic.
It's kinda grey area to start with - if I install something on your computer to track what websites you visit without consent, that's illegal, right? Different countries have different laws, they're generally pretty broad
So then you introduce the EULA - very problematic (as Disney showed us) and no one reads it, but theoretically this is where they outline what the software can do and obtain your consent
Now, on a website they just have to put the EULA somewhere, theoretically they're just hosting the content, your browser is in control. The rules are a bit more lax because of the nature of the interaction
But now, you can visit CNN or BuzzFeed, agree with their EULAs, and unknowingly Facebook and Reddit (websites you've potentially never visited), are tracking you. You never agreed to this in any form, the fact it's even happening is obscured from you, even the sites hosting the share buttons probably don't know
It gets less grey area if you live in the EU, they've passed a suite of privacy laws that are sometimes ignored
Well that's disturbing. Thanks
I got permabanned from Instagram during signup. As a small business owner you should have some social media presence, right? Good luck even finding a contact for support to start with, the hard to find email address is “no longer in use “.
Google does the same thing with its business users.
Good fucking luck getting customer support from tech companies.
very different social media but I recently got banned from Instagram and the reason they provided was me evading a ban, meanwhile I had ONE account 6 years ago that lurked and followed family members and AFAIK hasn't been banned
I haven't been banned from Reddit till now though if we are talking of different social media, does LinkedIn count? They wanted me to prove that I am a real person one day and upload some verification document/proof for that. I was running LinkedIn without any profile image and hardly ever opened it. One day I suddenly made couple of comments for first time and next day, came the hammer.
Getting banned on Reddit is literally easier than waking across the room. They're insane crybabies.
These kind of whatever-powered risk management is getting out of hand. Recently I made my first twitter account cause now you need one for lurking and I got insta-perma-banned for "attempting to evade banning".
You ain't missing a damned thing. Reddit is an AI content collection agency. It's swarming with bots, unhappy users, and those too dumb to find alternarives.
I perma banned myself a little over a year ago.
Today I randomly got a message from reddit that my account was permanently banned for apparent repeated violations of their site wide rules.
I feel like this is basically Reddit's ban message when you didn't actually violate any rule, but it still wants you to believe that you did (good old kafkatrapping). I got the same ban message years ago, but under different circumstances.
You can lurk using RDX if you want to browse still. I just use it for fantasy football since Lemmy isn’t at a critical mass yet for the more niche interests.
A few years back I got permabanned on reddit by an automated message, for no reason I could figure out. A couple of days later I was unbanned (apparently it was part of a mass banning, most of which were erroneous and reversed). So it's possible this is something similar and you might be reinstated soon.
I got banned for making a very dry unnoffensive joke with somebody about video games and they misunderstood it and threw a tantrum at me. I started laughing at them and asked if he was okay. He reported me and I was permabanned within a couple of hours. It's impossible not to offend people on Reddit. 😂
Haha what the hell. The admins are a bunch of cowards I swear. It's so bizarrely unreasonable that now I just pray for reddits downfall 😂
Create a new account and use Reddit like you normally would if that's something you want to do. I've been site wide banned for 1-2 weeks earlier this year and I used an alt account throughout with zero repercussions.
I made a new account and got banned within less than an hr just because my other account was banned.
When did you do this? Some time recently?
Yeah. A few days ago
Interesting. I wonder if things have changed from a few months ago, or are not all bans equal.
Happened to me recently as well. i use Sync. Even creating a new account results in it being banned within a couple of days.
At least a banned account can still lurk without any of the restrictions you face when you aren't logged in. It's what I've been doing.
And yeah the hacked app was probably what got you banned. Heard it quite a few times. Might not be because of the app itself but because your modified version messed with Reddit's device fingerprinting and you got flagged as being somehow related to a large number of other banned accounts. They've cranked the ban evasion filter up to 11 in the last few years and it's insanely easy to get flagged now.
maybe create a new account and use a patched 3rd party client. i use patched Sync (for reddit) with my own API token, and my account hasn't been banned since the beginning of their API changes. neither am I seeing ads
So?
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