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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 83 points 3 months ago (2 children)

oh, you don't think the bible is real? let me throw some bible verses at you, that'll change your mind

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This was one of my issues when I was a Christian. There is no external authority that the Bible was the inherent word of God and no way to ensure that the words within it were transcribed or even translated within the Authority of God.

There is a whole study of Bible hermeneutics that is about finding authority within the Bible.

You know how in the show Community Abed was always trying to meta the show? Imagine that, but really not funny and it's taken seriously.

[–] cetvrti_magi@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Another problem with Bible (and other similar books) is that it doesn't make sense that omnipotent god would communicate to humans trough vague book that would have many different interpretations and possibly have it's meaning changed a bit with translations to different languages. At least there are Christians who accept that events from Bible never happened.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

transcribed or even translated within the Authority of God.

on that topic, in case you haven't seen it, i recommend biblical scholar bart ehrman's presentation on problems with the bible.

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[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the Bible is real. like you can go buy it at Walmart.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Am I allowed to throw all of the Bible verses at someone? Like at the same time.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Legally or physically allowed?

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What if I say "heads up" while fastballing that bad boy? Then say oops right after

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 59 points 3 months ago (1 children)

~~book club~~

Cult. It’s a cult.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Cults are small. Christianity is big. And it was Christians who, during the satanic panic, created a false association in pop culture between cults and abuse. See, back in the 60s, the hippie movement was turning young people away from Christianity and towards new age spiritualities like wicca and thelema. The christians had to put a stop to these cults, so they created a myth that cult=abuse.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Cults can be small. They are not necessarily only small by definition.

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[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Eh, I'm gonna go ahead and keep calling any group with charismatic authoritarian leaders/councils a cult. The word "cult" is inherently tied to worship which involves giving up some of your own agency or, at least, taking things on blind faith or admiration.

Any time you have adherents giving up their free will/agency, that's abuse and manipulation, to me.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The bible is real. And very useful, to roll blunts with in a pinch.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One of the most frustrating things of dealing with bible people is when the request for proof comes up. They just point at the Bible. Like it’s some text that has deep references to verifiable and cross referenced historical fact. Like Pontious Pilate’s administration leaving records of some guy doing magic on the regular, him getting in fights with rich people, or even just a criminal docket of hanging a magical guy.

Nope. They just point at their book as proof of itself.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence

And when they still point to that bible of theirs, start quoting your favorite incest story.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 months ago (8 children)

I only care insomuch as stupid people use it as a guide for repression.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Can't tell if Atheist or American Christian

[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)
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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Schizophrenic, Bronze Age, fan fiction has a lot to answer for.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

So is new atheism back?

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