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[–] don@lemm.ee 174 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The guy who couldn’t run a livestream on Twitter last night wants to put computer chips in your brain.

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago

Same guy who called a cave diver a pedo.. because the world class cave diver who was risking his life told him how his sub was crap

And he didn't want to listen to experts

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Computer chips that killed a bunch of monkeys that they tested those chips on.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Of course there will be no law on mars that says he HAS to provide Oxygen, and if you don't have an oxygen reserve for just that occasion then really it's your own fault.

[–] hushable@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

shouldn't have spend all of your eloncoin on martian avocado toast

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Geev deese peepuhl ayuh!

[–] Rustywhims@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And Boeing wants to build the spaceship. Sounds like a recipe for success.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Do it.

Then get the billionaires to fight over the "right" to go first, then sit back and enjoy some fireworks lol

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Logitech's gonna sell some more F710s.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sadly Musk said he's not interested in ever going to space himself.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Must have a lot of faith in his own grift.

Guess we'll have to figure out another way for him to implode..

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Do people really think we'll colonize mars soon?

Colonizing the bottom of the ocean would be orders of magnitude cheaper, and more practical. Same with Antarctica. And there's a reason we don't do that.

I hate to sound anal, but I don't think the public appreciates how monumentally difficult space travel is, and how it gets exponentially worse with every ounce you have to carry. Even with theoretical, morally questionable tech like fission fragment drives or whatever.

[–] MycelialMass@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Pressure is way harder to deal with than a vacuum, not that i think mars is happening any time soon

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Both have unique challenges, but overall brucethemoose is right about the overall cost comparison. For instance, we could easily have a "space elevator" equivalent to the bottom of the ocean, it'd be a fraction of the cost of maintaining a freight network to mars. Pressure is hard to deal with, but not as difficult as it is to get shit out of a gravity well as dense as Earth.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The main point is the usable resources. You'd have a damn near infinite source of usable resources at the bottom of the ocean meanwhile on Mars everything would need to be scavenged or shipped.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 month ago

The ocean is a lot closer though, which helps

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Hey.

I love doing fully realistic space flight simulators in virtual reality -- programs that run at 18-30 FPS from the sheer computational load of doing physics calculations and accurate particle collisions of light, gas flow exchanges, liquids , and such in real time.

I'm nuts and the idea of being alone on a desolate planet in a space suit is highly relaxing for me:

I did the "solo" Mars scenario.

Even with the ability to quick save and load, and manipulate the environmental conditions to be completely in my favor (best possible landing spot, best weather, optimal genetic splicing and variation for plants), I died.

Everyone who goes to Mars -- is going to die.

The moon is a different story, and a testing grounds to see if humanity has what it takes.

Recently, they cancelled an unmanned rover whose sole purpose was to go look at some moon ice, due to budget cuts.

That should give you a sense of our overall preparation level for Mars.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Astrophysicists do have quick save and load. They run a bajillion simulations, calculations, and scenarios before they ever touch a single bolt. You're not doing that in your game, nor is it likely that you're an astrophysicist. Some of the most highly competent people in the world work on these projects, and they plan for decades before they launch a mission. Yes, shit happens, but the chances are pretty high that they already accounted for any shit that could happen.

We successfully sent people to the moon and back when the most powerful computers in the world filled an entire room, and were literally millions of times less powerful than the phone I'm writing this on. Material science and manufacturing processes are also considerably more advanced now.

Putting a person on Mars will certainly be a daunting challenge, but I don't think it's one that is insurmountable. The biggest challenge is the fact that they operate on shoestring budgets compared to other major industries. Musk won't have anything to do with the actual real planning of a Mars mission. As a matter of fact, Space X has an entire department that is dedicated to keeping him away from projects.

PS: what's that game called? I want to play it!

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's:

Take on Mars (VorpX) And Occupy Mars (Unreal Engine VR Hooks Mod)

They are both quite buggy and made by tiny teams because spaceflight/exoplanet simulation is a niche genre (See: No Man's Sky for an example of a popular arcade-like simulator)

I'd offer you some tips on how to approach your first Mars mission, but given that I'm likely not an astrophysicist, I'll let you figure that part out on your own :P

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[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Colonizing the bottom of the ocean would be harder than colonizing Mars. Not that either is a great idea, but just saying.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Dealing with the immense pressure would be harder. Getting the materials to the bottom of the ocean would be trivial compared to getting them to Mars.

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[–] Balex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I'm not aware of any reason on why we'd want to colonize the bottom of the ocean, but there's many reasons to want to become a multi-planetary species. Space exploration has also lead to many technologies being used in everyday life today.

What's morally questionable about fission fragment drives?

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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Spaceships in many ways are safer than sitting at the bottom of a ditch with 7 miles of water sitting on top of you at 30,000 atmospheres of pressure.

It's also darker at the bottom of the ocean than in space.

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[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We should strive for being a space fairing species. Except these corporations are more likely to turn our moon into a billboard we can see on earth.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Whenever I see Elon doing something obviously evil and/or stupid, I remember back to the massive hype about him, especially one video by ColdFusion in which he constantly spoke about how Elon was an entrepeneur like it was some kind of seal of quallity or mark of trust.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

I’d argue “entrepreneurs” should never be trusted

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[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You guys don't understand. He was DOS DOS DOS DOS DOS DOS.... sorry my brain chip reset, happy new year, what are your plans for 2023?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

So he ran out of his 640k base memory?

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm for boarding every billionaire onto a mars rocket and send em there for Earth's sake! Cause that's what they get anyway. A unhabitable planet where only some people with tons of money live with great technology.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sell all inclusive tickets for the full value of their hoarded wealth, then distribute it to those who need it the most. And instead of Mars, they land on the moon and the atmosphere vents.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah. Send em to mars, we can make a reality show out of it. They think they are the smartest most productive people, let's watch and see.

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[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Tbf, he would've also had an entire team of professionals there specifically to make sure this exact thing didn't happen

And he STILL fucked it up

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Y'mean all the experts he fired?

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I imagine most of the actual professionals have left or been kicked out at this point.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

The guy who couldn’t run a live stream on twitter last night sells people „self driving” cars.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As I learned from Heinlein, you treat others with respect in a vacuum. Especially if there's an airlock nearby.

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[–] nadiaraven@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I actually don't think it's a big deal that there were technical problems, there were millions of people trying to get in at the same time. What I don't like is him lying that it was a ddos attack.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's weird to me though, is if they were just overloaded at the time, wouldn't it make a lot more sense to just say that and sound like you're super popular and in demand, than to make up some fake attack? I guess persecution complex beats ego stroking.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s perfect for him and Trump: they’re victims, for one, and the “radical left” is out to silence their critical message.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

This radical left seems to be a lot more competent. Maybe we should have them running things.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago

I can imagine the people responsible for the tech lied to Elon that it was an attack, so he doesn't fire them

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Musk isn't in charge of projects at Space X, he just reaps the rewards. Space X has an entire department that does nothing except to keep musk from meddling in projects.

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Space X has an entire department that does nothing except to keep musk from meddling in projects.

It's still a company where egon murks had his hands in, so no warranty is given that ANY department there achieves anything they "claim" to do, want, can, should, would but blame others to sabotage or such, same with that department. period. There was murks in it once, you never now when some shit he pooped there would hit the fan or the oxygen generator.

Do you want a "claiming to provide oxygen" system on mars or would you rather want the ACTUAL oxygen no matter who is in charge, claims to be or not but delivers it anyway?

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't worry, he'll die of old age before he could get to see humans even reach it.

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[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago
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