Among top 3 reasons why to support IDF in Gaza is that Iran is against it.
this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2024
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Taking the contrarian position here is not right.
Palestine doesn’t need to be sacrificed to save Ukraine.
Palestinie doesn't exist and the government of the Gaza autonomous region committed a genocidal act of war in Israel, a country that supports Ukraine.
This kind of behavior is beyond unhelpful.
(Palestine as in a country never existed and never will, Palestine as a region does, but the region Palestine was just defined by the British government, not historical facts or anything meaningful)
Palestinie doesn’t exist
I mean, it does where I live. Wikipedia link.
As of June 2024, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 145 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 75% of all UN members.
Gosh, there really is a lot of green on that map. More than I was expecting tbh.
It just doesn't exist and i wish Israel a good hunt for the terrorists.
Oh and most of these UN members are either idiots (like every European green one) that help fule terrorists with their astronomically bad decisions, or want Israel to be gone, wich means every country that hates jews or usa, wich is quite literally every other green country.
Also...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_United_Nations
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel
https://www.newsweek.com/united-nations-ally-antisemitic-platform-opinion-1636252
70% of general assemblies are against Israel...
How would Ukraine feel being under constant fire from terrorists and states around it? How would Ukraine react if people call them genocidal when they literally just defend their population?
Get off the hamas propaganda man.
Get off the hamas propaganda man.
I'm not sure how pointing out that most countries (representing the vast majority of the Earth's population) recognise the state of Palestine is "Hamas propaganda" but here we find ourselves.
One of us needs some introspection and it's not me - it's entirely possible to believe strongly that Israel has the right to defend itself, hope that Israel gets all the terrorists, be absolutely outraged by what happened on October 7th while also being utterly, utterly horrified by the killing of children in enormous numbers and the witnessing of many of the other horrors that have come out of this.
Those things do not exclude each other in any way. They're not even vaguely contradictory.
A state Palestinia is exclusive to a permanent war or Israels nonexistence.
The two state solution failed horribly and causes nothing but death and war. And supporting a state Palestinia now, like Spain and some other EU countries did is like saying: BRAVO Hamas! Now that you killed all the jews we acknowledge your right to own the place and kill more Jews, or at least thats exactly how hamas uses it and the population receives it, the hamas in gaza and Westbank are way beyond absolute majority in a theoretical election.
Small reminder: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/
But Palestinian kids can go fuck themselves, amirite? /s
Palestinian dead kids is obviously deeply unfortunate, but who to blame about is questionable.
I'm donating to Unicef to at least partially help with that and also ukrainian children. I'm hoping my money doesn't just fall to Hamas in the region.
It probably will, there are non UN NGOs that do a way better job. Id recommend something like Kinderhilfe Bethlehem, they are beyond neutral and work with Israel to help the civilians in the non Israeli controlled areas inside Israel ("Palestine")
Who is to blame? The fascists - IDF and Hamas and those who fan the flames of this war.
Bro this argument is like saying Ukraine commits a genocide in Russia because some civilians die from war. Reality is that Israel is definitely a little reckless, but hamas definitely is responsible for all of it, just like Iran. Furthermore hamas dug out the entire ground below gaza and this causes every hit onto a tunnel hub to destroy basically the whole surrounding area due to the tunnels collapsing.
Also small reminder that 1/3 of the hamas rockets fail and hit gaza itself, hamas attacked fleeing people (people that wanted to leave over the Egyptian border or tried to use the humanitarian corridor wich Israel held open for three weeks)
But yeah keep shit talking and lying about your allies.
https://www.newsweek.com/israel-defense-aid-ukraine-russia-putin-united-nations-1874095
Except the fact that Israel IS commiting genocide in Israel.
I trust the International Court of Justice more than you.
HWR as a source is saying all i need to know, and this just furthers my knowledge about how fucked up HWR is.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Human_Rights_Watch
https://www.wsj.com/articles/human-rights-watch-israel-bias-cover-hamas-dd17c8b0
The ICJ literally stated that they did not find anything.
Yes they found that some things have truth, but when you throw a mountain of shit a little bit will stick... And explicitly said there is no systemic genocide.
Absolutely. Also Iran literally caused the war together with Russia. Hamas is a sock puppet of Iran and Russia wanted a favor.