Okay, now hear me out. What if we treat them like traitors?
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America has rarely treated its traitors like traitors. That's how we got in this whole mess.
Imagine if they dragged Prescott Bush out of his house in the middle of the night and strung him up.
We would literally be on a different. Fucking. Planet.
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We should make examples of them to deter future coup attempts.
Indeed we should. The problem is that the last batch of Trump zealots who tried to help him illegally overturn the last election still haven't actually even faced trial let alone been punished. The wheels of justice are turning so slowly, they might as well be standing still.
There is no justice except what we make ourselves. The "system" is a distraction meant to placate the masses into thinking we're living in a fair and reasonable society.
Bring back hanging as an execution method for sedition.
Over noticed that peiple dont really fear the social consequences of their actions, especially sinve scammers and con men keep getting chamce after chance to steal money. Cant help but feel that coincided with the decline of a good ol' tar and feathering.
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Send them to Saudi Arabia since they seem to love their rule of law.
I may not want their coup, but they have the same rights as any other citizen, including a speedy and public trial, and not being subject to cruel and unusual punishments.
The right to a speedy trial is an absolute joke in this country. But in this case I'd like them to actually get it because it means they'll be in prison faster.
Speedy is relative. It's in response to monarchies which would, if they didn't like you but didn't have a case against you, lock you up "pending trial" for the rest of your life. The point was just to prevent that.
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Eh, there's one additional way we can stop them. A landslide victory that puts her massively over the electoral college threshold would make a handful of compromised counties completely irrelevant.
It will cast doubt on the election process regardless. This is very dangerous rhetoric, and unfortunately there's about 20% of the country that wants this.
it's important that nobody sinks into complacency even if harris's victory is looking like an absolute blowout towards the end. GOP absolutely WILL do literally everything they can to undermine the election. everything from 2020 plus more
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I do think this is the only way. It's not 270towin this year, we need a margin.
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No shit. They've only been saying it for years.
I think the UN should send in independent observers to the US to oversee their elections because boy oh boy are those Republicans working hard to cheat.
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Watching Trump's press conference from Mar-a-lago the other day, and hearing his excuses for why he isn't out on the road campaigning, it struck me that the narrative that he's moping around depressed that he's losing isn't the whole story.
He's got Vance out pretending to campaign, while he and his buddies are sitting around coming up with plan B. He's probably had calls with dozens of Republican governors and is getting teams of "alternate electors" together (the Stephen Miller interview on Ari Melber's show made it pretty clear that they still see that as a perfectly legal strategy). Donald may know "it's over" but that just means he's going to get more desperate and we've already seen what desperate Trump can do with 2 months of prep, I'm not looking forward to seeing what he can do with 5 months.
I live in a mail in ballot state but I think people -especially in swing states with trump election officials- should call in sick to work on election day. Get some friends and be election observers. If you watch everything you'll at least catch them in the act of whatever they're planning. Bring water with you and help out. Even kids that can't vote can do some things to help. Be an election volunteer if you can.
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Chaos is just the first part of their plan. The whole purpose is for generating lawsuits that make their way to the Supreme Court.
The weirdo Republican's entire plan is to have the SC hand the dictatorship to Trump, irrespective of the Electoral results. Harris could win Texas and be over 300 Electoral votes and the SC will still hand it to Trump.
Do you really think those 6 idiots handed the office of the President immunity? HAH! They handed TRUMP immunity. They absolutely will NOT see a Democrat with that immunity in the Presidency after the election.
It has to stay out of the Supreme Court's claws. At this point, I really don't see how it WON'T end up at the SC.
Exactly. Reminder for those who still don't fully appreciate the scope of the problem: fully one third of SCOTUS were lawyers for Bush in Bush v. Gore. This is their endgame and their purpose: invalidating the vote to coronate a Republican dictator is what they were put on the court to do.
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I mean they already admitted it out loud. The smart thing to do now is to prep their countersuits. What we really need are federal voting laws, but good luck with that. "The States shall decide" is one of the dumbest things in the Constitution. They need stronger federal laws to protect and cover elections for federal office, if nothing else.
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Everyone involved should be charged with treason.
Yup, no excuse after Jan.6, they know what they are doing...
Alternative Headline: "Conservatives Fuck Around, Insist on Finding Out"
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Hey so... Being non American, I only learned about the electoral college during the last election, or was it in 2016? I forget.
What happens if the electors get corrupt and decide to vote Trump against the majority of the population?
And doesn't that mean that a president can be elected against the will of the majority?
I want to say every republican president since W in 2004 (and I think even that is somewhat questionable?) has lost the popular vote and only won because of gerrymandering and the electoral college. We already are electing presidents against the will of the majority.
As for electors going rogue? Welcome to the US government (and a shocking other number of governments but...) where basically every bit of our constitution depends on good faith actors.
When you think about it, democracy at it's core depends on good faith actors. Democracy IS good faith
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Defeat Trump soundly. As soon as election officials refuse to certify, slap them in jail and charge them with serious crimes IMMEDIATELY instead of fucking around for 4 goddamn years like the last time. Long prison terms and huge fines, or preferably, extraordinary rendition to Afghanistan and revoke their passport.
It's too late to "get ready". They aren't planning to win with votes.
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