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The GOP is scrambling to find a line of attack against Kamala Harris's VP pick — and it's not going well

Tim Walz has made his debut as Kamala Harris’ running mate, and Republicans are struggling to apply their standard villainization playbook to the Minnesota governor. 

Walz has been making waves for weeks now as a good-natured, relatable politician with a particular aptitude for dressing down the Republican agenda in terms that any voter can understand — and the GOP hates it

Republicans are scrambling to paint the governor-turned-VP candidate as a devilish Marxist hellbent on running the country into the ground — their usual stuff — while leveling a bunch of other really weird attacks. Here are some of their most pathetic attempts to turn voters against Walz.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 257 points 3 months ago (6 children)

LOL if "he gives away tampons" is the only thing you can find to criticize about your opponent, then you're in pretty deep fucking shit

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 168 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Bet they wanted a Shapiro VP pick so bad. It would've been antisemitic space laser conspiracy theory bullshit 24/7 until the vote. Now all they've got is "how dare this man ensure school children have full bellies and necessary sanitary supplies every day."

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 98 points 3 months ago (1 children)

as it turns out, the strategy of "lets force everyone to have more babies, and then when kids go hungry, blame the parents specifically for having too many babies" isn't panning out the way they hoped

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 77 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've always felt that "have more babies but also fuck you for ever having sex" was a bit of wildly contradictory policy stance.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 67 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I actually get it. You ever seen a toddler jump in a puddle and then get upset that their legs got wet and dirty? It's like that

Fucking toddler logic.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

That's giving them far too little credit for their cruelty.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This tactic of picking someone that the Republicans didn't expect and haven't had time to build a narrative about is working extremely well.

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[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But hey, now they can claim that not picking Shapiro was antisemitic! 🙄

Never mind the tiki torches and chants of "Jews will not replace us" in the distance...

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Isn't antisemitism a hard sell to Harris who is a Presidential candidate that is married to a Jewish man?

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You would think so, but I've heard it on talk radio already. Verbatim: "Harris didn't pick Shapiro because Democrats hate Jews!"

Uh, there's one major party that is so hard-up for votes that they now welcome neo-Nazis to their convention, and it's not the Democrats...

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[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 50 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Conservatives don't give a shit about what's actually getting criticized – if they're told that they need to think Walz is bad, then anything he does can be used as an example of him being a "villain". Could be fucking "he donates to charity" and they'd find a way to doublethink that into being a bad thing

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Could be fucking "he donates to charity" and they'd find a way to doublethink that into being a bad thing

The fundraising spam writes itself!

Tim Walz believes in REDISTRIBUTING WEALTH and ENCOURAGES FREELOADERS to TAKE HANDOUTS and not take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their problems.

[–] ChadCMulligan@lemm.ee 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

PS, Please send $$$ donations immediately!

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[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Holy shit. They're struggling to find stuff so they default to "he put tampons in schools", "let Minneapolis burn to the ground" (which it didn't, I lived downtown during the protests) or "rocks and cows" quote.

That's about it.

[–] iamtrashman1312@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, that was weird how they kept on telling me the city had burned down and shit when I could turn my head 90° and see the skyline same as it ever was, nary a cloud or indeed plume of smoke in the sky

[–] Vladkar@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Luckily we have Fox News and random strangers on the internet who are willing to magnanimously inform us about the desolation of our own city.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go scavenge for hot dish in the smouldering ruins of Saint Paul.

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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I lived downtown during the protests

So how's the ghost life treating you?

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[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 122 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Well yeah. I mean look at this man. Free breakfast AND lunch. Sounds like the devil's work to me. You have to be a good Christian like Sarah Huckabee and remove child labor laws.

I mean, who hugs kids like this anyway?

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Looks like the kids are doing the hugging, and he's just basking in the pure joy of it

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 120 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I love the contrast this is painting between the far-left and far-right. On the one hand, you got fascists carrying tiki torches and chanting "jews will not replace us," and on the other you got people saying "let's make sure no children are starving." And talking heads on Fox are super pissed about the latter.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 135 points 3 months ago (3 children)

To be clear neither Harris or Walz are "far left"...

This is what actual moderates looked like.

I'm happy to have them, but we lose if we call what they're doing "far left".

We desperately need to bring the Overton Window back where it should be.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be clear neither Harris or Walz are “far left”…

Policies that were considered centrist compromise planks back in the 70s and 80s are now "Fringe Leftist Views" in the modern media, because so much of our information is owned and manufactured by right wing extremists.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Oh, only the Wrong Wing calls them far left. Normal people know better. For one thing, they have a chance of being elected.

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[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 71 points 3 months ago (7 children)
[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 86 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The original image is so much better. No need to add a dipshit, just the VP nominee with a baby pig.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 51 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I don't like the whole "down to earth politician I could get a beer with" thing, but I legitimately don't think I can picture trump or vance looking happy with a farm animal, and I think that says something about them as peoplecin a way that's different than just "down to earth".

You should look like that if you're at a fair and someone hands you a piglet. It's just a funny, cute thing that's supposed to make people happy.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

The closest was when Trump tried to pose for a photo op with a bald eagle and the eagle attacked him

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Seeing this for the first time was the best part of my day.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

If we were in a novel or a movie the critics would have called that symbolism too heavy-handed. Of course they also would have said it is too unrealistic to have millions of dimwits voting for a con man because they are all racist.

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think the range of clothing I can picture them in is suit or golf polo. They just exude the energy of rich boys who don't want to do anything "beneath their station".

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 months ago

how long before the inevitable "national guard isn't real army men!!!" talking point is flying around?

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 54 points 3 months ago

Watched a video of him explaining how to fix a headlight connector and immediately know he is my man. Dude didn't need to explain to the world how to do it. He wanted to help us, in his own little way.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think they'll struggle to attack him, it's just a question of whether it will stick and how much it will matter since he's only the VP pick. In some ways it's useful because it distracted them from Harris.

The attacks seem pretty obvious: he's a pedophile, he eats babies, Minneapolis burned under his watch, he retired from the national guard to avoid combat, he supported LGBTQ groups in high schools, he lived in China, he facilitated sending children to China, say China a lot, say Marxist a lot, say communist a lot, highlight Bernie and Hillary's support of him, etc.

Remember, they only need to villainize him to people that already think he's a villain, so nothing needs to be true or especially devastating. It's like the Fox cut-down that people responded to by being like "the reasons Fox says he's bad are all the reasons I like him!"

It's like, well, yes. Fox isn't trying to convince you. They're trying to make sure republican voters don't stay home.

Edit: oh, and tampons, I forgot they were attacking him about tampons.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't make sense to me. They need to villainize him for those low info voters on the fence of voting. Most Republicans are voting for Trump, not against Kamala.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Next up: Is Santa Claus a devil worshipping pedophile communist?

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[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago

Believability is the nemesis of the GOP this cycle.

Walz is a villain? Not believable

Vance fucked a couch? Believable

Trump took illegal funds from Egypt? So believable

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 37 points 3 months ago

Republicans: "LeEbRuHL!!!!"

Waltz: "Thanks!"

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If Jesus were her running mate they'd find some way to double down on 'Democrats bad' by making a new hyper Christianity that's even more theocratic and fascist.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You mean modern Christianity?

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 32 points 3 months ago

By far, the most perfect VP pick:

Jerry “eggs-bacon-and-toast” Gergich. Dude is wholesome as fuck.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Also Republicans: screaming themselves hoarse about an Algerian woman boxer.

The weird get weirder and I'm loving this VP pick. What a 180 from just a few weeks ago, when a lot of us thought the Democrats were just going to march into a very likely loss with Biden as the nominee...most people now laugh when JD is the topic and a couch reference is made and the Republicans are proving themselves to a bunch of creepy weirdos on the daily.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 months ago

it's hard to paint someone as a villain when you're literally supporting donald trump.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

NPR broke the news about the Walz endorsement this morning by interviewing a bunch of Republicans from his original House district.

Everyone in the DC news circuit was furiously insisting that Shapiro had to be the guy and Harris didn't listen. So now expect this guy to get absolutely dragged in the press for the next three months.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Just had a conversation with someone about it… apparently he thinks that the reason she went with walz over Shapiro is that Shapiro tried to negotiate roles/responsibilities where Walz was like “what can I do?”

Don’t know if that’s just a rumor or fairly accurate, so don’t quote me on that.

In the paper world that is the DC circuit, Shapiro might have been the “smart” choice of political wonks.

In the real where people actually live… Walz makes more sense.

Really, the thing is that Shapiro might have helped deliver PA, where the effect Walz is having is immediate and obvious- he’s bringing a certain kind of optimism, joy, and grit.

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[–] ChadCMulligan@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Dude is so likable and squeaky clean seeming that it makes me worry his crawlspace is full of human remains or something

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

... because he's not a villain

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