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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 81 points 3 months ago (4 children)

And for what? Is this at all good for humanity? For the Russian people? Fuck war, fuck Putin.

[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 28 points 3 months ago

To distract people from the reality that the ruling class is ramping up their efforts to gain authoritarian control in a significantly large number of countries lately.

[–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's for conquering Crime a and parts od Ukraine. And as long as they get to keep the land, Putin will be satisfied... and the average russian will trust the propaganda they should be satisfied as well.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't understand how that morally justifies half a million unnecessary deaths.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Stealing one of the largest countries in Europe seems like a good trade for half a million peasants they obviously don't give a shit about.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they'd actually stolen it, sure. But half a million in and they're still nowhere near achieving that.

At what point do they stop throwing good bodies after bad?

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

And even if they achieve that they are looking at occupying a country whose people hate them and will do everything to sabotage them.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean it is still technically up several million people overall. But then again, over a million people left the country...

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you implying that just because the population went up it's not a tragedy that over half a million people have died for no good reason?

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not in the least. The person asked "for what?" About the only positive I could see from a Russian government perspective is an increased population.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That‘s more than Napoleon lost in Russia in one of history‘s most remarkable military blunders. So the Russians can‘t even look back at that fondly anymore. It‘s truly insane.

[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 6 points 3 months ago

arguably, Napoleon wasn’t just trying to distract people and empty prisons.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Estimates vary, and that's the ceiling, given by the Ukrainians. The US estimates about half of that, the BBC estimates about a fifth of that. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

Still a staggering number of people whose lives were wasted for Putin's vanity.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The BBC number cited in that article is for 100k deaths not casualties, which for 4:1 injured to killed ratio would tally with the Ukrainian number.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And a recent report identified 60.000 Russian soldiers that had been killed. If the number of identifiable bodies alone is that high, the Ukrainian numbers are most likely credible.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Remember as well that modern small arms rounds are built to inflict serious injury if they don't kill you outright - it takes more personnel to evac and care for a wounded soldier (unless you're doing what Russia is ALLEGEDLY doing and just killing soldiers too injured to fight).

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

Russia is sending injured soldiers to fight. As evidenced by the appeal videos asking to prevent the practice.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

UK intelligence has been more conservative in their figures but not by a significant amount. They often report a milestone within days or a fortnight of Ukraine.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago (4 children)

this will never make it to any hexabear subscriber. they'll just say fake news and shove their sickles up their ass.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do love that they all claim to hate Putin and the Russian state but only accept sources that paint it in a good light. The AP is apparently biased to them but substacks and Sputnik News are all legit.

[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 5 points 3 months ago

I call them armchair communists. Or, a more insulting term that only a real communist would pick up on, parlor pink.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Those tankies are just as bad as the idiots on far right social sites. There are extremists on both sides and neither deserves to be taken seriously.

And in case people from fringe Lemmies of either side decide to tell me off, our instance defederated you lot so I can’t hear you.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

See.....this is what confuses me about Lemmy.

When TV was a new concept, there was no internet, so they had TV Guide. It was your guide to knowing what was happening, at what time.

On Lemmy, we need an Instance Guide. To be able to have a wiki that explains what each instance's personality is.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hexbear.net & lemmygrad.ml - communist wackos. Block for your own sanity because sometimes you first read the comment before checking who wrote it.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

Communism is just a facade for them to cover up their authoritarian propaganda from the Kremlin and CCP.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How do you block instances that show up in the all feed? I'm doing this wrong.

I'm using the eternity client.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't know that app, I'm using Sync. But you can do it even via the website. Click your avatar > settings > blocks tab.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How many days did Putin say they would be in Kyiv by again?

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's only day 882 of 3, Russia will win anytime, silly westoid!

[–] lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I heard, they recently conquered a village*.

/* village totally destroyed, more than 100 own people died, the area of the largest country of the planet grew by 0.0001%

[–] superkret@feddit.org 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That means that basically everyone in Russia now personally knows someone who got killed or injured in the war.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If they were evenly distributed.
Huge chunk of the soldiers are men from remote villages lured with a huge payout in comparison to local wages, and who lack the information to figure out the truth about the real casualties as they aren't spoken about in the Russian media.