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[–] superkret@feddit.org 189 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

You can easily tell them apart by cutting them with a knife: The false brown cap will show a stronger blue discoloration under ultraviolet light if the soil contains manganese at >20% bioavailable water content, and the temperature didn't drop below 12 degrees Celsius in the past month.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's good, I don't want to bleed out my ass and deserve it.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

If you do all the tests and still die bleeding out your ass, they might update the test and rename it after you.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 16 points 3 months ago

That's a few check boxes that need to be filled so I Don't die.

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[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 156 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (22 children)

A general rule is if it has pores instead of gills, you’re probably in the clear.

Except for that one in Europe, that shit will megadeath you.

In all seriousness, the general rule I’ve heard for foraging wild unknown things is:

  • cut it open and rub it on your skin, wait an hour, if it gives you a reaction, stop here.
  • touch it to your lips, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
  • touch it to your tongue, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
  • chew a bit and spit it out, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
  • swallow a small amount, wait a few hours, if it gives you discomfort, stop here
  • if you’ve made it this far, it’s likely ok, do so at your own risk tolerance

Roots are generally OK, particularly if you have access to double boil them.

For mushrooms:

  • pores are generally safer than gills
  • don’t eat it if it’s bioluminescent
  • don’t eat if it oxidizes quickly when you cut it open
  • don’t eat it if it bruises blue or red
  • learn how to detect what a bolete is. Boletes are generally safe, unless it breaks one of the rules above
  • Slime: Just say no.
  • make sure there’s not a mushroom growing on your mushroom. Double the mushroom is not double the fun.
  • learn what a destroying angel looks like, even when it’s young. Appreciate it from a distance, but give that fucker 5 feet of space at all times.

I am by no means an expert. I’m just a rando guy from Appalachia with some wild ass Russian buds and we do some funky shit down here. Take everything I say with as much trust as you give to anyone on the Internet.

When in doubt, take it to an expert and even then, consume at your own risk tolerance.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 120 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's interesting, my general rule for foraging wild unknown things is: don't.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine dying for a D tier pizza topping

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

D tier pizza topping, lmao.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 66 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

There was a guy a few years ago who tried to live off grid. He died, having left behind a journal detailing his final days. In it, he logged the exact process you outlined above for various things he foraged, which included wild potato seeds. Turns out those things pass all the above tests, but contain a deadly neurotoxin that builds up over time (that even modern science didn't really know about). Poor guy starved because he was too weak to even crawl.

nature be scary fellow humans. Be careful out there.

https://www.theverge.com/2013/9/13/4726722/into-the-wild-author-reveals-chris-mccandless-cause-of-death

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

He also wandered into the Alaskan wilderness with basically just a sack of rice and a .22lr rifle.

He was a a couple miles from safety the entire time, but did not buy a map so believed he was stranded when the river rose and cut off the main trail. But there was another trail with a raised cable crossing over the river a few miles upstream.

He was totally unprepared and essentially just committed extended suicide. The fact that he remembered some basic tips from a Boy Scout handbook doesn’t mean he was an expert. Kid was an idiot who got in way over his head.

[–] Hardy@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That some guy ISNT JUST ANY GUY! 😤

  • Documentaries were made about him
  • A very successful movie was made about him “Into the wild”
  • Countless Youtubers keep making videos about him; Thoughty2 made a very good video about him..
[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The point of my comment was to highlight that even if you follow all the good advice, there's still a chance you discover some new things that will kill you.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I heard about a guy that didn't get accepted to art school.

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[–] Shard@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago (3 children)

For mushrooms the only good advice is, if you don't know what you are doing, don't go foraging for mushrooms. Rules and guidelines that apply for one region might not work for another. The risk reward never works out if you're inexperienced. You either get a tasty treat or incurable certain death. It's not a great gamble.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Sure, and I suppose you’re going to advise me not to do my own electrical home wiring either. 😛

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you're even half competent, you could (not recommended) actually do some basic electrical work at home and come out of it alive and well after a few youtube videos and some reasonable precautions. I can't same the same about mushroom foraging.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People are shocked when they find out how bad I am at electrical work!

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[–] riskable@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago

You either get a ~~tasty treat~~ bland, mild dirt flavor or incurable certain death.

FTFY

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Here's a general rule for foraging mushrooms; don't use "general rules".

Also; "don’t eat it if it bruises blue", you'll miss out on all the fun ones with this advice.

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[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

don't eat it if it bruises blue

Or do if you're up for an interesting time and it passes the test above. Eat about three grams for some nice sights and 6 before sitting in a dark, cool room to meet something unknown

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it bruises blue, cut off a very thin slice from the center of the stalk and put it on agar until it creates mycellium. There's some other stuff you need after that which I'll be happy to help you with.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 14 points 3 months ago

I am by no means an expert. I’m just a rando guy from Appalachia with some wild ass Russian buds and we do some funky shit down here. Take everything I say with as much trust as you give to anyone on the Internet.

Best disclaimer ever.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 months ago

you’re probably in the clear. Except for that one

Looks like the meme is accurate

[–] NationProtons@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean 'pores instead of gills' ? I think all mushrooms produce spores, no?

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 106 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Yep. Years ago I interviewed someone for a radio program here in the Netherlands. This was a forest ranger, on the topic of people foraging for mushrooms. It was the hip thing to do at the time.

He explained how wildly dangerous it is for average people to do. Especially when looking up things online.

He showed me two images that looked basically identical. He explained to me that one mushroom was edible and delicious. And that it could be found in the forests in the United States. The other, identical looking mushroom can be found in European forests. That one liquifies your internal organs and causes you to shit yourself to an agonising death.

He explained that each year a handful of people die from eating it. Because they looked up a guide online, and failed to understand that there’s regional differences between edible and deadly mushrooms. And by the time they got medical attention, there was nothing that could be done.

I’m not a fan of mushrooms anyway, but I’d certainly never be dumb enough to go pick some myself. That shit’ll get you killed.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 30 points 3 months ago (4 children)

In France you can take them to a pharmacy and they will be able to determine the mushrooms for you

[–] Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The local pharmacist in my parent's village died from accidentally eating poisonous mushrooms ☹️

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 15 points 3 months ago

Should've done the French Pharmacists' education instead :p

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 7 points 3 months ago

Modern witchdoctor. Haha, metal.

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[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago

I will never understand impulsive people who just DO things, with little thought or worry of consequences.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 7 points 3 months ago

I just buy them in a growkit, that way they are fun an enjoyable

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[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 50 points 3 months ago

Don't be a shitty.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 months ago

We don't know. The original author died from eating a false brown cap before he could finish his guide 😞

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago

Cropper of memes

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 10 points 3 months ago

Mycologist/forager I assume

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[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I remember going on a nature walk in Middle School, and our primary stoner/everyone's future dealer (we'll call him Nate because that was his name) picked and ate a random mushroom for the lols. I remember spending the entirety of that walk worrying about Nate's next couple of days. But as you likely pieced together, he was fine, and lived to become everyone's future dealer.

EDIT: For anyone wondering, it was one of those small, skinny, kind of spindly looking mushrooms. Almost like psilocybin but with a flatter cap.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 23 points 3 months ago

The Modern Shaman, hero in the shadows we didn't know we needed.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

Don't munch on a hunch

[–] souless@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some of the good tasting butterfiles evolved to taste foul to increase their chance of survival. Mushrooms on the other hand have mastered the art of deception. What can heal the brain can also force you to die a painful death.

[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Huh, that’s really interesting about the butterflies. Do you know if that’s how Pipevines & Viceroys developed their poison?

I didn’t know there were poisonous butterflies until I read about Pipevines coating their clutches with poison for protection.

I found out about mushrooms the fun way.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Viceroys usually trap their enemies in a closed room and let in poison gas.

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[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 months ago

If your family has been hunting mushrooms in the area for a few generations and you've been going with them as a kid (and you're not dumber than the mushrooms) you're almost certainly fine.

If not, don't bother, you'll end up poisoning yourself (and possibly others) and probably ruining the forest for those who know what they're doing.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Idk if op meant to fearmonger, but mushrooms are hardly ever toxic and hardly ever fatal.

It is now thought that of the approximately 100,000 known fungi species found worldwide, about 100 of them are poisonous to humans.[14] However, by far the majority of mushroom poisonings are not fatal,[15] and the majority of fatal poisonings are attributable to the Amanita phalloides mushroom

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_poisoning

That said, definitely be safe and if you arent sure, dont eat it.

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I'm less interested in the total number of species, and more interested in my likelihood of holding one

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[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You apparently have a shitty mushroom guide.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Or live in Europe. Seriously, it's so much harder here, except for 3 or 4 really obvious but not that great tasting ones .

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[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

Yeah, the mushroom guides I use in the pages for the edible mushrooms normally alert to dangerous mushrooms that may be mistaken for that mushroom and outlines the differences.

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