Honestly. I don’t give a fuck at this point. Just give me a D who can get to 270. Fuck the republican traitor filth.
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People are begging for that D. Just give them the D!
What's 270?
The number of electoral votes needed to win the presidency
Electoral college minimum majority to win the election.
The only number that matters. Unfortunately, the number of people that want a President doesn't matter in our goofy, slave-era Electoral College.
The number of electoral college votes to win. Each state has a number of votes based on the census population data.
270 is half the EC.
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Is it sad that to be a "good" president, all one has to do is beat trump at the polls (ok the electoral college), and then do nothing else?
A great president would beat trump then roll back the immunity ruling (somehow ;) ) codify roe v Wade, and resign.
Why would they resign and present an undue opportunity for the far right to come to power again?
Would make the vice the president, who then could/would pardon the resignee, making anything the resignee did an official act, and if not then the pardon is the official act.
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What are you on about ?
Why are you dragging the goalposts down the field ?
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Can these fucking articles actually link to the data? I appreciate including the sampling information but right now I really want to see the actual questions being asked because push-polling absolutely has been used by some of the other outlets.
Okay I found the poll and it's fucking awful...
https://apnorc.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/July-2024-W1-topline.pdf
For Approve, Disapprove, Undecided, Null they have:
Harris: 30, 49, 20, 1
Newsom: 17, 31, 51, 1
Whitmer: 15, 21, 64, 1
Harris clearly has the best name recognition but 49% disapproval is insanely high. And they didn't include any other potential candidates like AOC, Warren, or Whitehouse.
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A new poll from the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that about 6 in 10 Democrats believe Kamala Harris would do a good job in the top slot. About 2 in 10 Democrats don’t believe she would, and another 2 in 10 say they don’t know enough to say.
The undecided can be convinced during the campaign.
But I doubt I'll start thinking Kamala would be a good president...
I do think that she'll be able to beat Trump in the election at least. Which is better than Joe.
Exactly. I'm pretty sure she's a psychopath with a bunch of ties to some horrible people, but it beats the other psychopath who has a bunch of ties to horrible people that specifically want to kill me for the variety of ways in which I am not a suitable barefoot and pregnant housewife. Also she's not aggressively geriatric with a stiff gait and a vacant stare and could just be completely bodied by catching a common cold.
What has she done to make you feel she is a psychopath?
psychopath
/sī′kə-păth″/
noun
- A person who engages repeatedly in criminal and antisocial behavior without remorse or empathy for those victimized.
- A person with a personality disorder indicated by a pattern of lying, cunning, manipulating, glibness, exploiting, heedlessness, arrogance, delusions of grandeur, sexual promiscuity, low self-control, disregard for morality, lack of acceptance of responsibility, callousness, and lack of empathy and remorse. Such an individual may be especially prone to violent and criminal offenses.
- A person diagnosed with antisocial or dissocial personality disorder.
I don't know the thoughts of the other user and idk if this makes her a psychopath, but she did oversee an effort to deny prisoners parole just to keep them in California's prisoner firefighter program to combat wildfires.
The program itself is fairly repugnant to begin with, as the prisoners don't really have a choice in the matter, it's tantamount to slavery, and her trying to keep people locked up to bolster it is vile. While California needed more firefighters to combat their wild fire issues, I don't think slavery is the right solution.
Does that make her a psychopath? I'm not sure. Our definition of anti-social behavior is fairly restricted to what is legal and what isn't and what she did was legal. But it damn sure is without empathy or remorse and, in a just world, promoting slavery would be considered antisocial behavior, in my humble opinion.
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I want to point out that psychopathy is a colloquial term, not a clinical one. The most popular set of criteria, the Psychopathy Checklist - Revised, is not empirically reliable or valid. Its creator Robert Hare has made a lucrative career out of convincing the world (and the prison system) that psychopaths are Definitely Real. The PCL-R is used to justify harsher punishments and longer prison sentences, and it's completely made up.
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Yeah, "not 20 years past retirement age" is a pretty low bar to clear, but at least we did it.
One of the things that I think does go for her is that she’s been a part of a team that has actually done some amazing things, even with the Republican courts (SCOTUS and other) actively combatting them. How much of the development and running of that team has she been involved with? Maybe more than normal with a president halfway in the retirement home, but maybe not at all either. If her influence and proximity to the cabinet has done or taught her anything meaningful then we need more of that. He may be old, but he and his team have had a lot of wins.
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49% disapproval rating.....ye gods that's high. Pick literally anyone else. Even Biden yeesh
I'd pay big money to see a prosecutor debate a criminal.
I think she'd be shit, but I would still vote for her over Trump if that's literally the only other option, because as bad she may be it'd still be better than Trump.
I am voting party not person this election.
Get the fuck on board. We gonna out party that cult.
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And I would love to watch her smear the crap out of Trump at a debate.
No chance Trump debates again if it’s against Harris. He’s way too scared of a gasp woman making him look bad.
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Based on what I've seen most people could make a good president if they pick good folks to give them advice and don't act like douchebags.
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