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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 54 points 4 months ago (3 children)

From Wikipedia:

A fatwa is a legal ruling on a point of Islamic law (sharia) given by a qualified Islamic jurist (faqih) in response to a question posed by a private individual, judge or government.

So unless you live in a country that runs on Sharia law and have your real information connected to your account, you can safely ignore it.

You could report the poster for being mean if it goes against that community's or instance's rules. Up to you. But I think someone's just being a troll.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I just want to point out that saying things to people with the intent of making them fear for their life, is probably a crime.

If OP is worried for real, maybe a restraining order is possible.

Not because a religious judgement really means anything violent (or even specific) but because there is someone trying to intimidate OP.

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago

Anyone can call themselves an imam and give out a fatwah so long as they have people willing to listen. Its not like its an arrest warrant or smth, no legitimate party runs this.

i hadn't realized it was online tho. By reporting I thought op meant to the pigs.

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I am currently in the states so I should be safe. Thanks for the info.

[–] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 52 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Colloquially it means “your blood is free” to other people. It gives islamic religious lunatics a reason to kill you. If you are somewhat of a known person you should be worried. In a regular legal system (as in not in an islamic sharia law place) this can pass as a threat and legal action should be taken against the one who said it to you.

What im saying is the popular street meaning of this and thus it shouldn't be taken lightly. Its a threat. Period full stop.

Theologically it just means some religious legal entity ruled against you in your absence.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It means some religious nut job is going to tell other religious nut jobs to hurt you.

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Well I got another contract to go to in CA so I am not really worried about it after reading up on it. I think I am safe unless someone is stalking me. It is just a very weird thing to be told.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

See? Why would you expose where you're going when you potentially have an extremist stalker? Delete those details.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Kind of a weird thing to say, it's a ruling on a point of islamic law...

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some reference material: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Salman_Rushdie

the Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa calling for his assassination

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That bit of history is generally where the misuse of the term entered the western world.

The issued fatwa was an interpretation of law that concluded his assassination was legal and even expected punishment under the law. But the phrase then came to be used in the west when Islamic religious law prompted anyone to take an illegal/extremist action in the west.

It would be like a southern baptist pastor calling for a lynching or the electric chair on moral grounds.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago

It seems likely that the person who told OP meant it in the misused way, which makes the intent to intimidate clear.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could you explain why you think that is misuse of the word?

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The issue is taking a broad concept and making it mean a very specific one instead.

(Please note I am an atheist that lived for years in a "Muslim country". I don't actually agree with any of the below, but understanding what words are intended to mean is important when you are surrounded by their use in 2 different contexts).

Fatwa: a Sharia law ruling by an imam

Fatwa (western): a ruling by an imam that a person is not protected by the law and therefore a target for assassination

Hijab: men and women of Islam should maintain a sense of visual propriety in order to avoid devaluing what can be seen in private.

Hijab (western): that cloth Islamic women wear on their head.

Jihad: the righteous struggles that each human faces to choose a difficult path for good reasons.

Jihad (western): a holy war of aggression against infidels

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Question: What did you do that resulted in someone saying that to you, OP?

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

No clue just random message appeared in my inbox.

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 7 points 4 months ago

creepy 😬

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Report and block.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatwa

If they don't have your name, address or picture, just ignore it, but depending on where the Fatwa came from, should be considered a physical threat.

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/24/1131130774/salman-rushdie-loses-eye-hand-stabbing

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I am currently reading the Fatwa wiki. And it seems like it has gotten distorted from what it was origanally suppose to be. So I am taking it with a grain of salt. Also in two weeks I move again so have fun tracking me lol.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Probably some degenerate talking a big game. Might want to take it more seriously, as a threat, depending on context.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 4 months ago

the same as them saying you will be excommunicated. or that they will hang you for high treason. essentially its total bullshit as they likely do not have the authority to do what they are saying.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Larry David? Is that you?