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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 104 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some people decided awnings are unattractive so now every HOA and rental bans them. And the rest of us have to suffer because the pretty people who can afford to pay that A/C bill run our entire society.

This is the entirety of what's wrong with the US in a microcosm. The majority being forced to live under rules made by people that aren't affected by them.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 3 months ago

Im lucky as im right below the roof so I get the effect but nobody on the other floors get that shade except for the balcony getting it from the balcony above.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 87 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Eccentric midwestern home owner has strong opinions about home designs, news at 11. I love his channel, did you see his trilogy about oil lamps?

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes and his dish washer video was awesome as well. Agreed great channel.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] DaneGerous@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Don't forget about the other dish washer videos on connextras.

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i religiously watch the oil lamp videos. For some reason.

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[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 82 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Make them better looking and push-button retractable from inside, and people will want them.

EDIT

At 16:40 he suggests high tech awnings that automatically unfurl and retract to provide the ideal amount of shade on each day of the year. Seems like a nearly perfect solution to me

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I haven't watched the video yet, but vernacular architecture back in the day commonly set shading elements like awnings at the right height/angle such that during midday in the winter, sunlight would still directly go through windows and hit interior floors and walls. During summer, the angle of the sun would be high enough that direct sunlight could not reach windows.

You can get pretty far with just those passive designs. There are tools to help you find the dimensions you'd need based on where you live without having to do any calculations yourself.

[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

While that may be true, it doesn't make people want them any more than they currently do. People want to have their full window view available whenever they want it. This means it needs to be retractable and extendable at the push of a button. And once you have that, it's easy and helpful for it to also be automated

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Shade doesn't have to block any of the view. Many very modern houses with giant windows use these principles.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It's expensive. I got quoted 10k for 4 windows

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 65 points 3 months ago (4 children)

“Fun fact: the Sun is extremely powerful.”

Bahahahaha! I like this guy.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dude, check out his channel. A wealth of knowledge and laughs

[–] I_LOVE_VEKOMA_SLC@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Very dry laughs. And alliteration.

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[–] Teknikal@lemm.ee 46 points 3 months ago (12 children)

I'm Suprised people don't just paint everything white in really hot countries. I've always felt that would probably help a lot.

True it would probably look bad a lot quicker.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

If I could find it and it was as durable as regular paint, I would paint everything that white that converts visible light into infrared that isn't blocked by the atmosphere. Yeet that heat right the fuck back into space damnit!

[–] Pirky@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

That reminds me of the barium sulfate paint that was discovered a couple years ago. It's so incredibly good at reflecting/moving heat that it could even cool whatever it's painted on. I'll have to find a source on this again...

Edit: Here's one video where they talk about it.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

NightHawkInLight has a bunch of videos on making it

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

That video was exactly what I was referring to. Lol.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The climate change slogan that works: "Yeet the heat!"

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Oh they do. It's just the hot areas in developed countries that pretend they shouldn't be using white paint.

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

our house was built in the early 2000s. It has an awning.

Why were they forgotten? Probably because manual awnings suck, and once extended if it's windy, it's a rather fun time having it out.

Other than that, they're pretty good. I actually plan to experiment with passive building cooling using a similar technique, instead of an awning, it'll be a diffusion sheet of light fabric to block direct sunlight exposure to the walls, hopefully providing a decent bit of cooling, but naturally, i have to get around to testing it in the first place.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Awnings don't have to be a piece of fabric flapping in the wind. Wood, metal, extended roof overhangs, a deciduous tree, really anything that provides exterior shade to a window will be quite effective at reducing interior heating.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Florida used to build houses with metal awning you would fold down over the window for hurricanes. We did away with those because hurricanes got stronger and would rip them off turning them to flying projectiles. Now we have panels and no awnings. Because of hurricane codes

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I was watching this earlier and got about halfway through before the power went out. I spent the next 90 minutes before it came back on trying to imagine a style of these that would look good on the south side of my house.

I didn't come up with anything that my wife would let me install so I guess I'm going to stick with my plan of automated shades or drapes.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Interior shades aren't nearly as effective as exterior. Once that sun gets through the window, it's already giving that next interior surface quite a bit of heat.

There are many styles of awning or other shading elements. You can have metal slats or what looks like a wood box that comes out horizontally over the window. I'm sure something could fit your house's aesthetic. And perhaps ask your wife what value she'd put on thermal comfort.

Looking for shading elements or shading strategies might get broader results than simply sheet metal or fabric awnings.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I just got awnings installed two months ago on the windows that get sun for most of the day. It dropped the temps in those rooms by almost 8 degrees Celsius on hot days. The AC even runs less during the day now.

They're simple retractable awnings that a local guy installed for me. I used to hate the idea of awnings, but the thought about IR heat getting trapped clicked with me recently and suddenly the idea of awnings seemed brilliant.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've got a large plate glass door in the side of my house, and I'm thinking of installing a pergola outside it. Grow something on it that gets nice and leafy in the summer and bare in the winter.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Since the video's point is that awnings are too unattractive for people to use them, then hot damn is that so much worse. Solid metal gates - for when you want your house to look like a convenience store in a bad neighborhood when riots are about to start.

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[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (10 children)

You should actually watch the video, he does adress them

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[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

I've lived in NY for too long and that looks like it needs spray paint and giant locks

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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Our house has a pretty big roof overhang, and it definitely does keep things cooler.

The downside is that the house is pretty dim.

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[–] solarvector@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I don't think the look good.

And literally never thought about it more than that.

So people may not really know what they're for, just that they're "old-fashioned". Not sure how to make them trendy but that seems to be a deciding factor in how people invest in their homes. Maybe sell them with "live laugh love" printed on the front with wine bottles dangling from the corners?

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago

Just start doing it and brag about your electric bill going down. Eventually others will do the same for the same reason. Then it becomes a trend for being a thing people are doing.

That which is old is new again.

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Make them out of eco friendly bamboo slats and 36-in long sections of galvanized square steel, sell it flat packed on Amazon and people will go crazy for it

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[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Better idea. They're called trees.

[–] PancakeBrock@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As a guy who does concrete. Trees close to your house love to drive roots through your foundation. Trees are great but can really do some damage. Especially where I live. Ground water is about 80' or deeper. The tree roots here stay shallow and spread out everywhere.

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[–] Tinks@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Honestly, I kinda hate the big tree in our front yard. It has these tiny leaves and every fall we have to clean the roof and gutters repeatedly until it finally drops everything, because those stupid leaves stick to everything and clog not just the gutters but the downpipes. This tree has caused our basement to flood during fall because one storm can simultaneously blow off a ton of leaves, instantly clogging the gutter, and then pour rain down the front of the house. We spent hundreds of dollars last year on a new gutter solution for 6ft of gutter. You read that right. Six feet of gutter cost us about $450, and they STILL wouldn't guarantee it would fix the problem because of the stupid tree.

We keep the tree trimmed and healthy, but every time the trimmers come out I dream about telling him to cut the stupid thing down. Awnings would be easier -_-

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[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

my neighbour installed awnings a couple years ago, they look great

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I’ve been planning for the last year some eco home upgrades, and awnings on the south facing windows are high on the list. With so many possible upgrades and so little money it’s difficult to know what to do first.

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[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

In my house in North Carolina, I put up radiant barrier foil in the attic. It was cheap and made a huge difference in the upstairs temperature. I stapled it to the joysts so there was an air gap on both sides of the foil, and so that the hot air would rise out of the roof vents.

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