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[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The issue isn't their nobility. Bombing women and children to support a religious genocide isn't noble. It is that they pick bad candidates. In a West Wing fantasy the President wouldn't be 81 years old. Democrats in 4 months will be asking how this happened, just like in 2016. Then they'll pick another bad corporate puppet and blame anyone that doesn't unify behind them.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think there's a little bit of hero worship. Seeing Bartlet struggle over impossible decisions, coming to the least bad solution, often failing but always trying, that's how they imagine Biden behind the scenes. Or Obama, or even Clinton. They picture a room of impossibly competent and ideologically diverse paragons of civic duty respectfully debating the decisions of the day.

So when Biden does something horrible, they can rationalize that the alternative must have been worse.

The real delusion is that they are picking a candidate at all. The game is rigged, and the money picks the candidates.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Amen to that. What has Biden promised for that money.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago

Hmmm. You mean the candidate who has received the most aipac money than any other US politician in history?

Let’s, see…..

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm sure they're getting their money's worth, but it's still better than Trump selling Goya shit from the resolute desk. Vote for Biden, and when Trump's in jail we can talk about what to do about corruption.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

What will Trump be in jail for? His national documents case was dismissed today. Once appealed to the Supreme Court that will get thrown out. The New York case is unlikely to result in any jail time and may very well get thrown out too. Biden is losing to Trump already. The people that will vote blue no matter are not going to influence the swing voters and undecided who are leaning Trump.

A different candidate that can actually speak the plan, policies & party in an intelligent and enthusiastic way will win. Biden's condition is not improving without some serious drugs and/or experimental treatments. Maybe they'll find a way to revert aging between now & November. If not and Biden stays in, might as well kiss whatever democracy you think Biden gave us goodbye.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

Maybe the DNC policies for their primaries need to be changed. Like maybe they shouldn't be able to over rule the primaries like they did with Burnie or be able to decide that there will be no primaries like they did this year.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If we want better candidates there is only one way to get that: convince more Americans to support better candidates so that they win more primaries.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And actually having primaries and not using the Democratic establishment to attack candidates that challenge the corporate puppets.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

We did have primaries. Remember "write-in uncommitted"? Those were primaries. That could've been "write-in someone else".

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 7 points 4 months ago

I think it's closer to the show The 100 😆

[–] stallmer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago

I lived in DC for seven years. I didn’t work on the hill, but several of my friends and roommates did. I remember one of them saying working in the government was much more like Veep than The West Wing.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The show, which ran from 1999 to 2006, portrays politics and policy not as ruthless powermongering pursued by nihilists (that’s “House of Cards”) but as a higher calling that flawed but idealistic people engage in from a place of civic pride.

Working across the aisle isn’t easy when your colleagues are telling their constituents that you’re demonic, and pushing conspiracy theories about child sex trafficking in pizza parlors.

In response to Project 2025 — the Heritage Foundation’s road map for a second Trump presidency, which includes agenda items so extreme they would be sent back to the writers’ room in Sorkin-land — Mr. Biden offers mostly dry policyspeak.

Today’s Democrats have been caught off guard by Mr. Trump’s willingness to overturn democracy for personal gain, the corrosion of ethical norms and the tectonic decisions that have come out of the Supreme Court in the last few weeks.

A college mentor of mine who was a Republican member of the National Security Council liked to say that somewhere in a dusty box in a closet in the Pentagon, there’s a plan for what the United States will do if we’re invaded by Canada.

It’s not clear to me that Democrats have enough invasion-of-Canada plans for all of the dumb and disastrous things that could await, even now, when you can say “former reality star turned president Donald Trump suggested that America buy Greenland” and not be wrong.


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