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[–] huginn@feddit.it 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My i9 13000 computer has been unstable since day 1. It mostly doesn't affect me since it seems to be most unstable at idle. There's always a chance when I step away for 20 minutes that I come back to a reset computer.

Tbh I just assumed it was windows this entire time.

[–] billbasher@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Check this out - I fixed mine using this. Mine was basically undervolted https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/Unstable-i7-14700k/m-p/1569028

I have an MSI and needed to change ‘CPU Lite Load’ from Mode 9 to 13. You can then test with the XTU utility and AVX2 stress test to see if it fixed it

[–] punkfungus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately this is a separate issue. The main problem that is blowing up now is that the CPUs are rapidly degrading to the point of failure even with completely standard settings and normal usage. And ironically, boosting the voltage to solve the issue you're talking about might then accelerate the degradation issue, because the leading theory seems to be that the high voltage that i9s use is frying the ringbus.

All around just a terrible situation for Intel and their customers

[–] Laser@feddit.org 3 points 4 months ago

No customer deserves this but if you're buying Intel at this point, you can't be surprised. It always seemed that their only way to keep up with AMD is to pull some tricks like insane power draw and other shenanigans to beat them in some specific benchmarks and then use these as the definitive measurement for performance. I don't remember any innovation from them in the last 10 years (and frankly, before AMD released their Ryzens, it wasn't actually needed).

[–] billbasher@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah I’m getting an RMA. This solution gave me stability in the mean time though. I still have to pay shipping/handling though

[–] huginn@feddit.it 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Lmao I think I was undervolting it to try and improve stability. I'll try the opposite, even if it does chew through the processor a bit quicker.

[–] billbasher@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Watch the temp. >90C is too high

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] huginn@feddit.it 1 points 4 months ago

It's been more than a year and I'd have to sell off my motherboard for a new socket and AMD.

I'll just roll with it until it burns out then jump ship.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Intel taking lessons from phone manufacturers, it seems. There's zero chance they didn't know about this problem if it's truly as prevalent as it seems to be.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago

Problem? You see a problem?

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Glad I went with AMD this time round.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I've always had bad luck with Intel CPU and ATI GPUs, so it's AMD CPUs and NVidia for me.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Good luck with the naming scheme although Intel is now just as bad if not worse

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

Honestly I find Intel's to be a bit more confusing. Still, what my CPU is called exactly bothers me fairly little now that it's in my PC.

[–] neutronst4r@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago

AMDs naming schemes have been exemplary ever since Ryzen came out.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

Intel, the Boeing of chip makers

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 2 points 4 months ago

How is 12th gen not affected? Isn't it the same architecture? There were loads of stability issues with 12th gen when it released, though I think most of it may have just been related to DDR5 being new. My 12700k is running pretty stable, but on an old BIOS version. Every time I try upgrading the BIOS it becomes unstable so I just left it on what it is. But I'm open to some vulnerabilities now.