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[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 125 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Race is a useful social construct in the class war. However, harm has been done to people in minority groups, so we cannot ignore it's impact.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Has been, and continues to be done. Every injustice inflicted on the poor will be worse for poor minorities.

[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A life can matter even though the person is a bastard

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No. Cop lives don't matter regardless of skin color.

[–] HostilePasta@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago

The only good cops are not cops.

[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

So are all the deaths of innocent people caused by cops with no punishment and the entire class turning a blind eye or encouraging it.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

No punishment‽ Often they get paid leave and sometimes even a funded transfer!

You monster what more could be done for killing a child holding a candy bar or giving contradicting orders to a man outside his apartment and shooting him w their personal rifle?

Alright, since you insist we’ll make the taxpayers pay for it, then they’ll have to think about all the people their mistake affected, that’ll teach them a lesson.

[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Doesn't mean every single one of them is bad or that their lives are forfeit you psychopath

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but now you are acting like it is impossible to have innocent cops.

Maybe the US has a complete fucked up police system, but that isn't the only place on Earth.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Your perspective is normal and common and you might therefore not question it, but if you want to understand where these people are coming from look into prison abolition, police abolition, and anarchism.

The idea is that policing itself is not "innocent" or necessary. When you think that way (agree with it or not) the position you're putting forward sounds to them like "there were good Nazis too not all Nazis are bad" sounds to you

[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

And that's the wrong way to go about it.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Lol. People out here are acting like cop is a protected class. Like you’re born cop and cant ever change from being a cop.

[–] LesDeuxBonsYeux@sh.itjust.works 55 points 3 months ago

Cops are class traitors

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 52 points 3 months ago

You can't separate these. They are all interconnected. That's why the answer is intersectionalism

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

It's about class because there are black cops and white arrestees?

There are numerous problems with policing in this country - some stemming from class, some from race, and some from a cruel intersection of both. Or, usually, even more factors. You can't just boil everything down to "It's class" even if class is an important component of many social problems we face.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not pictured: excessive force resulting in arrestee’s death.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

Sure, because, ya know.

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I get where you're coming from, but especially in America race is often used as a shorthand for poor, as well as being straight up discriminated against due to literal racism.

It annoys me that corpos and politicians only focus on the aspects that don't affect their bottom line. They're quite happy to have a pride flag or a black square, but never in a million years are they going to engage with socio-economic class.

It almost feels like a divide and conquer style conspiracy to keep the lower classes fighting amongst themselves

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I think it's much more complicated than that. It's about culture, poverty, the desire for order, the subjective nature of justice, mental health, inequality, tribalism, public safety, addiction, trauma, human nature, power hierarchies, narcissism and sociopathy, fear, mistrust, anger, and so on and so forth.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Skin color can function very well as a class marker, like a uniform that can't be taken off. Think of it as "low-tech" classism. The high tech version is, for example, the one conservatives project about:

spoileridentification microchips embedded in the body.


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