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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

After everyone seeing that speech he just gave it's no longer just pundits

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 4 months ago (8 children)

"Biden's debate was due to a cold."

"Okay he needs more sleep, it was jet lag. It'll go away in a few days."

"So several democratic members of congress, nationwide democrats, and public agreement say Biden is unfit, but just wait until the news conference, they'll see. Biden himself wants to stay in, so we should believe him."

President Putin and Vice President Trump.

"...So all the media is bought out and on the side of Trump, don't believe anything you see by credited publications. It's fake news, boycott them. Boycott anyone who disagrees with us."

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago

It never was, that was always a lie. My mom's normie friends thought he should step down right from the debate. Polls have 40-60% of Democrats saying he should step down. We all saw it.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Imagine thinking that giving a bad speech is somehow comparable to being a rapist/felon that has promise to help Israel finish the job- even while you yell at everyone about how Biden is committing “a genocide.”

This is what propaganda looks like folks. It’s not stupid cartoonish posters. It’s not tinny radio ads urging you to join someone’s army-

It’s people like this…

People that want you to believe that a bad speech performed by someone that has a history of being bad at speeches- yet ran the country for four years with a lot of major changes for the better- is somehow worse than a rapist that tried to overthrow our capital because he lost. A rapist that is also a convicted felon- 34 times over.

THIS is propaganda by definition. It’s no myth. It’s no exaggeration. It’s this.

And it’s pathetic.

[–] upto60percentoff@kbin.run 18 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I have to ask: are you just ignorant of the position of the anti -Biden crowd, or are you intentionally misconstruing it as them preferring Trump over Biden?

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[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (9 children)

First of all, Trump is a dick and may he rot in hell.

That out of the way, this is yet another article yelling at us to disbelieve our own eyes and not recognise an old man struggling. People who DON'T want Trump are watching the election toppling over the edge and are helpless to effect an outcome.

It's not about the pundits wanting Biden out, it's about the pundits demanding that everything is under control when it is obvious that it isn't.

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 4 months ago

look at his past accomplishments not the possibility he'll be another Reagan or dianne feinstein before his term ends

it'll be a coup if people acknowledge he's not able to mentally hold office

Amazing how many worlds they use to say please don't see this as it's time to take your parents car keys or drivers license

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because pundits and even other Democrats don't care if Trump wins. They're rich and won't see hardship. But inflaming the public gets them in the spotlight and that's all they care about.

They are effectively Trump supporters.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

They’re rich and won’t see hardship.

LOL, they need to study their history 'cause, with dictatorships, that's often true until it suddenly isn't. For example, remember that time when Mao sent all the "elites" to go work on the farms, or that other time when Pol Pot killed all the "intellectuals" (read: anybody who so much as wore glasses)? Hell, even if you're the dictator's ally you're not really safe. Plenty of Putin's buddies can testify to that -- oh wait, no they can't because their bodies are splattered on the ground after being defenestrated.

If there's any sliver of a silver lining to this catastrophic dystopian nightmare, it'll be seeing their stupid, smug faces go all surprised_pikachu.jpg just before the end.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

This comment is on point!

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
  • Because it sells/trends.

  • Because they're all glued to Twitter.

  • Because the Trump crowd is kinda right, they suffer from group think.

  • And because they're salty that the White House all but hoodwinked them, insisting that Biden was fine, which they clearly should have been more skeptical of.

I don't really buy the theories that the media conglomerate leadership is pushing for it. And I'm not calling them incompetent or anything, but clearly they weren't clear eyed with this issue when a large swathe of the public was.

And I'm not talking about Republicans. My mother would literally vote for a Hitler/Stalin ticket before Donald Trump, she despises him so much it's hilarious, but even she thought Biden was way too old to run. Even before the debate.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

That last bullet point is a big part of it. They got embarrassed on national TV, now they have to make up for being shills.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 15 points 4 months ago

Because... we have eyes? And have seen the polls? And know that this Biden can't win?

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago

Because he is clearly fading and we don't know how bad it will get before November.

I mean, I'm locked in to vote D regardless, but I'm not super excited about Joe's prospects at the moment.

We saw with Feinstein, the Democrats are a gerontocracy that would make the CCP circa 1985 proud.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because people click on those articles.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Saw this comment on Reddit:

Theres nothing new thats been going on in teh news lately, looking for something to grab views, and this is it. So this whole Biden dementia thing is going to get stretched out until the new flavor/news of the week comes out.

The media is upset that there's nothing unusual happening to report on. They need bad news because that grabs attention. Ukraine and Palestine are old news. If they could start a war for headlines, they would.

[–] itsgoodtobeawake@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The check engine light for American Democracy is blinking red. Smoke is pouring from the engine compartment, we have two flat tires and the driver is telling the scared children in the back seat "Don't worry, I don't need to pull over for anything, everything is fine up here, we can make another 3,000 miles easily"

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Like, who do they think they can replace him with, huh? They got a dark horse waiting in the wings? Or are they cooking up the perfect President in a secret cloning lab somewhere?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes, its only the pundits. Like Pelosi, Obama, and at least one prominent billionaire democrat donor. This premise is propaganda and intentionally ignorant of top leadership expressing the same concerns. Garbage.

[–] AliasAKA@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Most pro union pro worker president we’ve had recently — that’s about it. He’s not Bernie but wealthy people really hate us poor working class folks.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 7 points 4 months ago

They want him out because they're scared and know he will win in a landslide. Their only shot is to create confusion and make it sound like Biden is worse than the racist rapist with 34 felonies that wants to become dictator. VOTE. Volunteer to help give rides to people that need them to make it to vote.

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Because he's doing good things for the populace at large and pundits sound bytes are purchasable by those negatively impacted by those good things.

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Being a pundit is a qualification, not a class. It means you have actual experience and training, not just another doomscroller with semi-informed, highly biased opinions like all of us.

Why is the "pundit class" so desperate to push carbon out of the atmosphere?

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

First time I heard someone claim that pundits have to have training

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

Fucking finally someone had finally said it, and said it well

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