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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 246 points 4 months ago (28 children)

Even if he goes full and permanent vegetable, he's still not Trump. Top priority is stopping Orange Hitler from taking control again, so please for the love of human rights, vote for whoever has the the best shot at beating him - if that's Biden, cool. If it's Harris, cool. If it's a literal ham sandwich, fucking fine - all three are orders of magnitude more qualified to do the job then Trump.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 63 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, I'll vote blue... But get this fucker off the ticket. I'd much rather it be Kamala, or like... Nearly anyone really.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 39 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Yeah, the question isn't who Democrats will vote for. It's who independents will vote for. And there are a lot of independents.

Relying on the "Never Trump" vote to win this election feels like a terrible risk.

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I've been trying to be positive about him but he's really indefensible at this point.

His hubris is very likely going to fuck things up for everyone.

Any other candidate will wipe the floor with trump.

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[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I will take weekend at Bernie's in the White House with people who actually understand policies over fascist bat shit crazy any day. Not even a discussion for me.

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[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 202 points 4 months ago
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[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

During Premier Trump's reign, on Reddit, that picture preview always pointed the way to the most roaring political dumpster fires.

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[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 184 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The funny thing is that Biden's had gaffes like this his whole career and could have laughed it off under other circumstances, but with the eyes of the entire world on him watching for him to have another senior moment this is another nail in the coffin.

[–] resin85@lemmy.ca 66 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Trump at a rally this week: "Mothers will never again be forced to watch their children overdosing & hosp--lee. We will never allow mothers to watch their child hopelessly dying in their arms, screaming, 'What can I do? Help me God, what can I do?' We are a nation whose once revered airports are a dirty, crowded mess."

Has any media covered that word vomit?

[–] roboto@feddit.org 37 points 4 months ago

Trump’s brain is also absolutely cooked. He just doesn’t look as confused as Biden I think that helps him. Plus that his voters don’t care about facts, I’m guessing they might have actually had some bleach.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 26 points 4 months ago

No, because with Trump it has been normalized for years and his base couldn't care less about these things.

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[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Combined with his constant look of intense confusion, it seems like a lot more than senior moments.

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 122 points 4 months ago (11 children)

I remember when Biden was picked as Obama's VP, and everyone laughed because he's known to make gaffes like this.

Obviously, there's a lot of scrutiny on him, but let's not pretend it's all because he's too old. It's just Biden being Biden, and while he's probably too old for the job, that's what happens when you don't impose upper age limits...

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not just "biden being biden" by a longshot. He is 81 and significantly worse.

We are rightly worried he's going to lose against trump.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

As if Trump doesn't make those kinds of verbal blunders.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (26 children)

His voting base doesn’t care if they’re led by an unfit leader.

Be better than them.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago (25 children)

People aren't going to vote for Trump over Biden, they are just going to sit out. America doesn't have mandatory voting.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago (73 children)

As John Stewart pointed out. Biden's "huh?' scale is spiking.

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[–] Gsus4@programming.dev 108 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Guys, I'm not american, but at least today answering the press questions (no teleprompter) Biden was dishing out wisdom about economics and geopolitics and very thoughtful...he is just not very good with the whole "slick reality show clown president to distract the cattle while you rob them" part :/

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, that is what the voters want

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[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 108 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s like saying the wrong name at your wedding 😂

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 93 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 91 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

He was just asked about his confidence in Kamala to be able to beat Trump, should he be succeeded(sp?)... and he referred to Trump as his VP and then meandered into some vague talking points.

[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I thought you were trolling, like in a "you have to double check if I'm bullshitting you now" kind of way. But it's actually true... and unlike his Putin remark he didn't seem to even notice he said it.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Its only been getting worse as this post conference pressser has gone on.

He has forgotten entirely to respond to parts of a multipart question, meandered into basically 'I sat down with Golda Meir and Yitsak Rabin and we accomplished peace!', just keeps repeating things he did (some of which are legitimate accomplishments) that have little to do with the questions asked...

... "You said your presidency would be a bridge to younger candidates, what happened to that?"

Rambles about being in the Senate a really long time

... at one point he actually said, outloud, 'How do I not make this seem self centered?' before answering a 'Considering the stakes, do you really think you should run?' type of question.

In the time I have been typing this he has basically barked in anger after a short response to a question that was followed by the reporter asking 'thats all?'.

He also keeps doing the sort of asshole loud whisper sarcasm voice.

He is coming off as a sundowning angry old man who doesn't want his car keys taken away.

[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Yes and it's really getting to the point where it undoubtedly impacts his ability to perform without an aide basically at his side at all times. Imagine him telling another world leader something insane and the translator having to jump in correct him. Or worse, how can you be sure something he did mean to say was actually something he meant to say and not just another mistake? That kind of communication failure is very dangerous at the highest level.

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[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Caught that too, was rough to watch.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Oh my god.....I thought /u/sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip was joking. Biden really said trump as his VP??? God damn this is not a good look......

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[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 84 points 4 months ago (29 children)

Im sorry, im just not getting this.

You're worried about someone who says some dumb things when the other choice is a convicted felon, known sexual abuser, who's actively fighting the democracy you stand for and first act as non-president was to try overthrow your government.

Trump should be in prison or hung, and you're comparing him to someone who says dumb things. TRUMP IS A THREAT TO HUMAN RIGHTS, GLOBAL STABILITY AND THE FUTURE OF FUCKING HUMANITY.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure what your point is. Even people voting for Biden because Fuck Trump have reasons to be concerned about the current/next president having pudding brains. Assuming Trump loses, once the election is over that's still going to be a pressing issue.

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[–] Batbro@sh.itjust.works 35 points 4 months ago (27 children)

Can't I want him to step down and give someone a shot?

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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Which is exactly why it's really important to have an opponent to Trump who doesn't say dumb things.

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[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

A saddening phenomenon that's likely to happen if this continues ... is people opening up about how they saw the decline way before the debate but presumed it was a "one off" or "bad night". I think it's already started somewhat.

But the picture that could emerge with pretty high clarity is that "the issue" was covered by an inner group and ignored by those peripherally exposed to it ... all instead of the party preparing for it, preparing new potential candidates, and taking seriously the notion from Biden in 2020 that he wouldn't run in 2024.

Losing to Trump a second time by sticking to a party elder is going to be a big deal (if it happens of course). It will probably look more like the Dems losing than trump winning, and it prob will look like the Dems allowing it all to happen out of hubris and stupidity, not unlike the RBG fuck up. Could seriously shake the party up?

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 22 points 4 months ago (13 children)

And also the entire Hillary fiasco, where she barely campaigned in midwestern states. I wonder if they are truly so wealthy and disconnected as to literally not realize what is going on - for them, the economy is "fine" and so everything is hunky-dory, so if they plan on losing rather than put in someone that they don't feel that they have as much control over as Biden, then... that might be the end of democracy. Heck, that SCOTUS ruling is already in the past now - maybe they are ready to end the fiction that our votes matter any longer?

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[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago (12 children)

And apparently, Trump is his VP.

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[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Zelensky would brush it off.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 61 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He did. "I'm better" -zelensky

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Zelelsky is originally a comedian. I feel like that's been glosssed over by his amazing job as political leader. But 10 years ago he was just a comedian on Ukraine TV not assosiated with politics.

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[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Heck, 15 years ago, way back in 2009, Obama said, "During the second hundred days, I will learn to go off the teleprompter and Joe Biden will learn to stay on the teleprompter."

The dude hasn't been able to keep his words straight for a while...

But the timing is... very poor to say the least...

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Biden: Refuses to step down after a dismal electoral debate performance that makes people think he should be in a care home and not in the White House.

Also Biden: Wrongly introduces Zelenskyy with the same name as the Jasper Carrott looking dictator who invaded his country two years ago.

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The aged president with a stutter says something wrong in public again.

Whatever

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 27 points 4 months ago (7 children)
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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago
[–] Ifera@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Damn, I sort of feel like saying "Thank fuck he isn't president of MY country", but then I remember how even my local covidiots felt validated by the giant cheese puff, and how Trump is offering carte blanche to companies, for them to pillage and destroy the living conditions of the whole world.

All I can do is shake my head, hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 35 points 4 months ago

I saw someone put it well on mastodon:

Non-Americans care about US elections for the same reason a hostage cares about the mental state of a gunman.

https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112766969146106942 (@aral@mastodon.ar.al)

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