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[–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Imagine if Biden with his newfound immunity decomissions the entire Supreme Court and raids it with military force just for the sake of tragic irony

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Everyone seems to be missing the "in an official capacity" clause of the ruling. That is intended to force each of these cases to the supreme court, allowing them to rule what is and isn't official capacity. Meaning, they can simply rule that Biden didn't act in an official capacity and is not immune. The ruling is even more sinister than it seems on the surface.

[–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

He can make it official. He can make it as official as it gets. He can literally publicly sign this, in his office, with the press. Just because the constitution doesn't explicitly say he can do it doesn't mean it's unofficial. The constitution barely mentions what authorities the president does and doesn't have in the first place.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 9 points 4 months ago

Its going to be hard to rule against the president after you been killed by the president.

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[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 55 points 4 months ago

This should scare the shit out of everyone.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Except when the terms of what an official act is not defined, the Supreme Court gets to decide, after the fact.

[–] firebyte@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

I've been thinking about this a bit, I'm not sure it's been considered and I may be going out on a random tangent...

Isn't this whole 'immunity' decision just another power grab, or rather further cementing of their power, by SCOTUS? Think about it. They're essentially the arbiter of 'right' and 'wrong' now, as there's no further avenue of appeal save for amending the U.S. Constitution.

Put aside the vagueness of 'official' vs. 'unofficial' acts for a moment.

  • Trump did something definitely illegal, and Trump argues was 'official', like his classified records case. Immune.

  • Biden did something questionably legal yet unofficial, such as forgetfully retaining classified documents after his tenure as VP (which he immediately returned). Supreme Court decides 'not immune', and some idiot decides to prosecute.

Trump might end up as a king, but the conservative majority of SCOTUS are the kingmakers and protectors.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Eh. Not if Biden just says “no. Fuck you. That was an official act.” And then just categorically ignore the court. Which is precisely what Trump would do if presented with a mirrored version of the situation.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 41 points 4 months ago (36 children)

Yet somehow Biden is powerless to stop him. 🤔

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Are you hoping that Biden now sets a precedent by using his newfound king powers to assassinate his opponent? I want Trump to lose in a fair election and go to prison for a very long time. Biden using this “the president/king can do whatever he wants” would lead to an immediate civil war

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (4 children)

What?! No! This is like a riddle. You assassinate the Supreme court first, THEN pack the court. Then have the new Supreme Court strip the presidency of these new powers.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yes but my cabbage is still on the wrong side of the river

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 41 points 4 months ago (7 children)

The time for a president to not act like a king was before a corrupt court awarded the powers of a king to a president. The only way to turn it back now is for a non-corrupt king to break the corrupt court and then divest himself of powers before a corrupt king ascends to the throne.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

That seems logical, but can we try wishful thinking first?

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Weird how if Biden uses any of the power he has to stop Trump from becoming Fuhrer then it will cause a civil war, but when Trump actually uses that power to become Fuhrer he will face no obstacles.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (16 children)

It will still cause a civil war. Also, that was a wild edit from “you’ll fucking wish Biden assassinated Trump”

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I changed my mind about what I wanted to say, but was I wrong?

EDIT And I changed my mind again. If Trump is so dangerous, the only way to really stop him is for Biden to win decisively. Instead, he's behind in fucking New Jersey in the latest polls. If he wins it'll be razor thin, maybe only by the electoral college or a few counties, and then the fascist Supreme Court will give it to Trump anyway. Lose/lose, at least if Biden does something really funny before he resigns he could make sure Trump can't become fuhrer.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The forces that produced Trump remain and will birth a new "strong man" for the masses to get behind, and the GOP does another attempt for Christian fascism.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And liberals can't actually confront those forces, because some of those forces are the ones who donate to them. Yeah, I get it.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

I want Trump to lose in a fair election and go to prison for a very long time.

I mean, 2020 happened, he lost in a fair election. He did do crimes that should have landed him jail.

Now what? You’re saying it’s gonna happen this time?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

As if that’s not gonna happen when Trump uses said powers? Indecisiveness will doom America. Act! The Heritage foundation, Trump, and the Republicans do. They ask for forgiveness, maybe, but not permission.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Hell no, this "When they go low, we go high, bullshit!" is why Roe Vs. Wade was overturned and if we continue that nonsense it will be why Gay Marriage is overturned.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Curiouser and curiouser 🤨

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Does anyone else just not bother reading articles when they see it’s from The Daily Beast? I just don’t have the energy to deal with their paywall.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

There wasn't one this time

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like their paywall has gotten more strict recently. I used to almost never get them (edit: on my pc with an adblocker. I did get them on mobile but now I’m seeing them on my pc too)

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