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[–] explodes@lemmy.world 164 points 4 months ago (14 children)

Fuck everything that's happening. I have nowhere else to fucking yell. I am so frustrated with the absolute stupidity and proud-ignorance in this world. Fuck!!!!!

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hang on to that aggression. Might need it later.

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[–] forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml 81 points 4 months ago (8 children)

This is what Democrats need. For the younger generations to be the adults in the room. It's been time for it a over a decade ago. They should have been preparing lines of succession during the Obama era.

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[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 77 points 4 months ago (22 children)

There will be no 2028 election.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 58 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Plenty of dictators still have elections. Well, they call them elections at least.

So I guess it will at least be called an election.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

This is the correct answer. GOP is already trying to capture enough secretary of state positions to ensure they always get 270 electoral votes.

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[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I doubt Republicans will support this. Really it comes down to if Biden is going to use his newly gained "official" immunity and look like a dictator, or if Trump gets elected who will most definitely use a cover of immunity to target his political foes. Maybe this is Democrats attempt at we tried to be civil, but you gave us no other choice.

However, this doesn't go far enough quick enough to revoke the latest decision by the Supreme Court. What the Supreme Court has done is actually told the Jan. 6 rioters that under a Trump presidency that a dictatorship is permitted. It doesn't matter if they are impeached, replaced or the decision is reversed. Trump will do as he pleases and point to this moment and say "look, they said it was fine and Democrats didn't respect the rule of law."

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago

comes down to [whether] Biden is going to use his newly gained “official” immunity and look like a dictator,

Trends indicate a strong no.

or [whether] Trump gets elected who will most definitely use a cover of immunity to target his political foes

Direct statements strongly indicate yes.

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[–] TomViolence@lemm.ee 49 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Would it be legal for Biden to assassinate them? Asking for a friend.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness.

And if you're the president, forgive yourself.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Only if he orders the CIA to do it, it's a personal act if he does it himself

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He could declare the new Department of No Malarkey, appointment himself Chief DeMalarkier, and then declare a Malarkey Ceasing Spree.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I am Jack's mathematically flawed voting system.

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[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Only in so much as the Supreme Court decides that it is "legal".

So the details are that the Supreme Court left it open to interpretation as to what could be considered an "Official Act". If the Supreme Court decides your murder spree is an "Official Act" you are good to go.

So if the Supreme Court Justices are conservative when Biden goes to trial, then yes, he can be found guilty.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Assassination is a good thought experiment because of this. It is literally up to "someone" to decide if X act was official.

And that someone will more than likely be the Supreme Court for a lot of things.

As much as I hate the political drama, Biden really needs to do something completely ridiculous to show everyone that this ruling isn't sustainable.

He won't though. And this shit will drag on and spiral with no checks.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I bet if you killed everyone on the court and in the legislature and replaced them with your personal sycophants, they would probably agree it was an 'official act'

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

That's basically the entire republican plan. It's all spelled out in Project 2025. Literally replacing the entire government with Trump loyalists, and military tribunals for anyone who cannot be directly fired and replaced. Trump has even said that Mitch McConnell is going to be tried in front of a military tribunal.

As a note here, military tribunal means no due process, and no defense. Just straight to the guilty verdict and death penalty.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Literally anything except getting rid of First Past The Post voting. Meat is back on the menu boys!

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[–] sunzu@kbin.run 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mullahs gonna be mad... You would think corruption would be sufficient to remove a federal judge but apparently not in this timeine lol

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago

Can't even remove some of them for just being incompetent, like cannon in Florida.

Or malicious like the 5th circuit

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


While Trump celebrated the ruling, many legal and political analysts sounded the alarm about its implications, with some arguing it places presidents above the law.

Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from New York, wrote early Monday afternoon that she would introduce articles of impeachment against the court in a post on X, formerly Twitter.

Congress has the authority to impeach and convict Supreme Court justices, a key check on the judiciary's power.

Only one justice has ever been impeached—Justice Samuel Chase in 1804 after Congress accused him of refusing to dismiss biased jurors and of excluding defense witnesses in two politically sensitive cases.

Even if Democrats were to support impeachment, it would likely face hurdles due to Republicans' narrow control of the House of Representatives.

"Today's Supreme Court decision to grant legal immunity to a former President for crimes using his official power sets a dangerous precedent for the future of our nation," wrote House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.


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[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even if Democrats were to support impeachment, it would likely face hurdles due to Republicans’ narrow control of the House of Representatives.

What I don't understand is why wouldn't every single democrat support this? What better case for impeachment is there than a court that flagrantly ignores the constitution and tries to turn the president into a king? It's beyond the pale.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Because there are some Democrats that have held on to their seats for many many years and are too fucking scared to do anything "out of the norm" because they may lose their seat. There are also some Republicans that will state they don't like the ruling but are also too afraid of the loss of their seat to actually do anything for the country the swore to protect.

Ultimately it comes down to the fact that there are not enough brave representatives in Congress and the Senate to take on this problem. They all talk a big talk but if their actions reduce the chances of their reelection then they are out.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are also some Republicans that will state they don’t like the ruling but are also too afraid of the loss of their seat to actually do anything for the country the swore to protect.

Any Republican that supports impeaching a right wing Supreme Court justice (let alone 6 of them) is going to be committing career suicide. It would be handing vacancies to the Democrats to fill, and potentially locking in a left leaning court for decades.

Now, obviously they should be able to put the good of the country and the rule of law above things like partisan politics and their prospects for re-election. But we've already had several rounds of purges on the right that have wiped out anyone with principles or conscience since those things get in the way of being blindly loyal to Trump.

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