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My friend with severe PCOS and who would never be able to be pregnant had the hardest time already trying to get a hysterectomy at 28. Even asked about her future husband being ok with this decision.

So we aren't that far off already.

It's exceptionally difficult already for a woman to get sterilized. The decider may be whether sterilization has the same stigma/religious fervor around it that abortion has in that people will willingly waste their weekends off protesting against it.

I'm optimistic, but America likes to disappoint me.

Honestly it’s so difficult to get done as it is that they don’t even need to outlaw. It’s virtually unobtainable for most women unless they already have “enough” kids, whatever that means to a specific doctor, or they travel to find a willing doctor.

It took me 8 years to get it done because I’ve never reproduced (childfree by choice). And I’m one of the easier stories. I got it done at 27, in 2015, and while some doctors are more willing now, most aren’t. Especially in conservative areas.

All they have to do is keep making doctors scared to offer proper reproductive care, make it risky and they stop going into that field. You don’t need to make it illegal, just impossible. Rich white people will still be able to choose, so they don’t care.

I had to deal with a whole bunch of people asking me hypothetical questions. What if you regret it? (what if I regret having them?), what about your future partner? (If they are right for me they also don’t want kids, and I don’t plan to get married anyway). What if you change your mind? (I will adopt if that happens. I don’t believe sharing my junk genetics is important, and the chances of issues are high anyway since I’m also broken, and there are plenty of not-infant kids who need homes if I get maternal, but kids under 5 aren’t my jam and probably never will be, and I’m probably too negligent to raise them right anyway). Ultimately they couldn’t argue with my logic but it took years of finding the right doctors getting the right consultations, etc.

That's why I hauled ass to the doctor and got a bisalp scheduled asap. I ended up getting them to agree to a hysterectomy this year, which is what I really wanted, but I wasn't willing to take a chance on that not happening. I'm no longer in the young category, but I was only 38 and potentially still fertile (and way more likely to have complications from being "geriatric").

They are already trying to ban contraceptives. Cancer is what they are.

TIHI. Fuck this is coming isn't it.

If you read to the end, the article mentions that the first time Ferst tried to get sterilized (and her old doctor was being difficult) she still had a male partner. I think she's bisexual.

Oh they understand people fuck, and the people who want to ban abortion and contraception want people to have kids they didn't want for various reasons.

I got one a month ago. $200 out of pocket. I feel great. Cheapest $200 I’ve ever spent.

The 1% can make their own wage slaves.

Best decision of my life!

I was broke as hell and the vasectomy was going to cost $700.

I finally saved $700, and when I went in they said "shit dawg, you're broke as hell. Here is this program to make it free"

So even if you can't afford it, try reaching out to your local planned parenthood. They know how to navigate the benefit system better then you.

Hell yeah. I got mine done 5 years ago

The only reason I haven't is because I'm ace, so nothing's happening until I intentionally attempt for kids

Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

I get that reference, but also I'd like to support the statement. I've sat on my couch for 2-3 days, frozen peas in my lap and just took it slow. A week later I could barely tell that anything changed.

Toxic masculinity, all my friends that don't want to be convinced have the worst excuses possible but most times it's about not wanting to feel like a lesser man.

Getting your vas deferentia snipped is tight!

Barely an inconvenience!

I'm looking to reenter the dating pool in the near future and this has been on my mind, especially in light of Roe and my location in middle America. Would you be willing to share your personal experience with the procedure? Everyone says it's very easy, but I gotta be honest, it makes me nervous.

How do you plan on doing that?

From experience you better do it while you're single instead of waiting until you're with someone and having to deal with the stress it will cause them when it becomes official...

Why wouldn’t you be?

I didn't read this article, so idk how they spun things, but given the title and the information you shared from the actual study, they sensationalized, not exaggerated. 5.31 is an 87% increase from 2.31, which is a rounding error off 2x. Honestly, in medical/psychological/anthropological/sociological studies the sigmas are never high enough for my comfort as a probabilist anyway.