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“Chances are, you’re never ever going to have to use this. If you do, it’s gonna be scary,” Kate Carleton told the 20 or so 8- and 9-year-olds. “But because we’ve taught you what to do, it makes it a little less scary.”

She spent the next 30 minutes teaching them how to stop a wound from bleeding out.

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Although a child dying at school in a mass shooting may be unlikely, a child dying from a gunshot is not. Firearms are the leading cause of death among people 18 and younger in the US, accounting for nearly 19% of all childhood deaths.

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[–] cybermass@lemmy.ca 59 points 4 months ago

Lol they'd rather teach 5 year olds how to bandage a gun wound then legislate military weapons.

Then "oh wow these gay librarians are ruining our children's innocence!" LOL what???

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am never opposed to any sort of survival, triage, or emergency training. Wounds, broken bones, severe weather... things that should be taught in schools. Do you want the next generation to be better? Teach them about the consequences of our freedoms and how to deal with them.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Yeah, even if guns didn’t exist this would be useful knowledge.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe we could teach kids how to amend the Constitution since no one of current voting age seems capable of it.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Seriously though - I am doubtful we could meet these requirements to add an amendment stating the sky is observably blue in the current state of things in the US. It's hard for me to imagine we'll ever pass an amendment for any purpose ever again unless things change quite a lot.

A proposed amendment must pass a two-thirds vote in both houses of Congress, or if two-thirds of the states petition Congress, a new constitutional convention can be called to consider amendments. In any event, three-fourths of the state legislatures must ratify the amendment for it to become a permanent part of the Constitution.

https://www.pbs.org/tpt/constitution-usa-peter-sagal/we-the-people/amendment-process/

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This is an odd characterization of the Stop the Bleed program. Largely I've seen it targeted at adult and people in industries at particular risk, rather than children in particular.

That said I could get behind a CPR/AED/StB program being standardized for a high school course level. These types of programs tend to take a little amount of time to teach and can buy enough time for EMS to arrive. Although 8-9 yr olds seems like a bit young.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Honestly high school feels a bit too long to wait; middle school seems to be the age that gets a lot of weird and stupid, but surprisingly bad injuries.

[–] geekworking@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Any training needs to be tailored to age.

Training for 5 year olds should be mostly about thinking about not putting themselves in danger, recognizing when somebody needs help, and getting help.

As for high school age you can get certified as an EMT at 16, so high school age can handle this type of class.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I am all for basic first aid to be part of school curriculum. CPR, AED, and Stop the Bleed.

There are so many reasons to have a stop the bleed kit and training that isn't gun shot related. Industrial accidents, automobile accidents, and even accidents around the home like kitchen accidents could cause a serious bleed. It's not a terrible thing to understand the basics of preventing someone from bleeding out.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Damn 2020 kids growing up hard as 1920 kids

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I mean......if history repeats itself, we better buckle up. We've been in a bad recession for a bit, but not a great depression.

So, hold onto your butts, because the 30s we won't even have alcohol. And a silly mustache model will decide to commit mass genocide in an attempt to take over the world.

Although they do say "History never repeats itself, but it does often rhyme".

Do maybe this time it'll be a silly beard style instead.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

As with bulletproof backpacks and multiple security doors in schools... another thing that shouldn't exist in the first place, and it's only necessary because dead kids aren't enough for Americans to reconsider how convenient it is to kill people here.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Here, children learn first aid, too. But luckily we live in a civilized country, so they don't need to learn about shotgun wounds.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 4 months ago

A lot of people give Americans shit for this, but many parents are doing their part to reduce the percentage of children dying to firearms.

By not getting them vaccinated so they die of entirely preventable diseases instead.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

When I was in school we had earthquake drills and stop drop and roll. My parents had "Duck and Cover".

Not sure how this is any different other than being potentially more useful.

https://youtu.be/6IYrA3Ans_U

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Earthquakes and Fires still happen though

[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Also, earthquakes and fires aren't something that can be stopped through legislation.

What CAN be done about both of those things is to mandate building codes to minimize the risk.

Perhaps we could apply a similar concept to guns...

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The US government was able to pressure God off the whole polygamy rules in Mormonism.

I think we could do the same for earthquakes and fires.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago

I thought this was about Ukraine for a second.

But at least there’s no Kinder eggs!