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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Speaking as someone from a blue country on that map. Most of the world is wrong though. The ISO standard is designed that way for a reason. Not putting the largest unit first is just silly.

Also https://m.xkcd.com/1179/

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Personally I can get behind YMD and DMY (while sticking to ISO would be preferrable for obvious reasons), but what on earth possessed people to come up with MDY?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have no idea why it started that way, but in everyday speech we say dates with the month first. So that makes MDY just the thing everybody is used to.

Fortunately the ISO format YYYY-MM-DD still has the month before the day, so I don’t have to worry about my fellow Americans getting it confused.

[–] AceCephalon@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You know, I thought about it after reading the comments here, and I've thought of one possible explanation for MM-DD-YYYY, that being the order you effectively get the useful information from a date.

Going by DD-MM-YYYY, you read the first part, and that tells you the day in a month, but not which month, just skimming that first section gives you no actually useful information about how near or far it is without reading the second.

Doing MM-DD-YYYY on the other hand, you first read the month, which immediately tells you what part of a year it is, and if it's relatively sooner or later, and then reading the second part of the date just gives more precision, rather than the whole useful answer.

So basically, it makes it easier to skim dates within a year with more useful information listed first, whereas putting the year first would just delay or offset that same skimming method.

Day first gives a range of error between 0 and roughly 330 days without reading further, whereas Month first gives a range of error of only up to 28 to 30 days depending on the month.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Shame there isn't a 31st of April then, could make it extra wrong.

[–] GlennMagusHarvey@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

I don't mind having an excuse to get ourselves a new calendar system :P

[–] coffee_whatever@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that iso standard of yours specifies using what you call military time, or 24 hour time system, which USA doesn't use widely, so even they don't use this standard

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

What are you even talking about?

Most countries use a 24hr clock

Many countries that use a 24hr clock don’t even use ISO8601 officially.

The only countries I know officially use ISO8601 are certain East Asian countries.

I don’t think they even use ISO8601 in the US Military.