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[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Abolishing the employment contract isn't more constraints than ancap. It is part of legitimate contracts' non-fraudulent nature.

Groups enable the large-scale cooperation needed for an ordered stateless society.

Groups could have judicial systems. Judicial agreements could exist between groups. Thieves would pay damages to the victim. For serious crimes, there could be expulsion from group(s) and blocklists

For arguments, groups could subsidize agreement across social distance

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Abolishing the employment contract isn’t more constraints than ancap. It is part of legitimate contracts’ non-fraudulent nature.

I meant in general - two sides in ancap may voluntarily decide whatever concerns them both via any mechanism they come up with, but if that violates the rights of others, the others of course are not obligated by it in any way, or if it transfers responsibility in this case, others are not obligated to follow that transfer.

Here we have something less relative and more static.

Groups could have judicial systems. Judicial agreements could exist between groups. Thieves would pay damages to the victim. For serious crimes, there could be expulsion from group(s) and blocklists

OK. This is as bad or as good an answer as for ancap, because it's the same answer.

In general what you describe is technically a subset of ancap+panarchy, which is what I meant by more constraints.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 4 months ago

The ancap vision lacks necessities for stable stateless societies besides the dual logics of exit and commitment. By having some rights be non-transferable, it prevents them from accumulating and concentrating maintaining decentralization and preventing collusion to form a state. There is no middle ground, in the ancap vision, between full economic planning of the firm and completely uncoordinated atomized individuals in the market. The groups I describe provide that.
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