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  • Travelers can opt out of facial recognition at US airports by requesting manual ID verification, though resistance or intimidation may occur.
  • Facial recognition poses privacy risks, including potential data breaches, misidentification, and normalization of surveillance.
  • The Algorithmic Justice League's "Freedom Flyers" campaign aims to raise awareness of these issues and encourage passengers to exercise their right to opt out.
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[–] StereoTrespasser@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago (21 children)

If you already have a passport and opt out of facial recognition, you're only deluding yourself into a false sense of privacy. In fact, if you enter the screening area at all in an airport, you are kidding yourself if you think you can maintain some semblance of privacy. The government knows what you look like. Calm down and move on with your life.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 68 points 3 months ago (19 children)

Fuck calming down. That's how we got into this mess in the first place. People are to complacent with privacy. Anyone that thinks this attitude won't lead to terrible things is a fool.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 1 points 3 months ago (12 children)

You're never going to live in a world where you're allowed to fly without photo id amigo.

[–] CyaL8r@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's not what the other user is saying - we have to fight to keep what rights we have, and maybe one day gain some of the ones we lost

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Their message is correct but they’re mad at that “calm down” part and addressed it poorly

User 1: if you fly using a passport, the government knows what you look like, whether or not you opt out of facial recognition, being a Karen at the airport won’t help with you

User 2: Fuck that, if we are complacent, more privacy will be taken away from us

User 3: You can’t fly without a photo id

Seems to me the user you responded to knows what they are saying, and you’re both right. You don’t have a right to fly on an airplane without a legal verification of who you are. We should have a right to verify our identity without facial recognition software. But that happens with laws, not making scenes at airports

Honestly, we should have a right to fly w/o providing ID as well. I don't need it to ride the bus or local train, and I don't think I need it for a greyhound bus (if I pay w/ cash). I've heard you can maybe get away w/o ID on Amtrak, but their official policy says it's required.

So why are airplanes so different? Fatalities per mile on airplanes are among the lowest of any form of transportation, so I highly doubt terrorism is a significant, statistically relevant factor here. I think they do it because they can, not because it actually helps reduce risk in any meaningful way. I don't see any basis for needing an ID for any form of mass transit, you should only need it for driving to prove that you have the privilege to do so.

I really don't understand why law enforcement is so infatuated with checking my ID...

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