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Alright this is getting fucking ridiculous. If he won't exit with dignity then just 25th amendment his ass.
The Dems don't want him to exit. They have the means and they know how to use it, so wanting to force him on us has to mean that it's what the party apparatus wants, which is really just what their rich and corporate donors want
Maybe, but if Schumer, Pelosi, and Schiff are all working to get Biden out, I assume at least a sizable chunk of the leadership wants him to go.
add obama to that list but it doesn't seem to matter; he's dead set
Then they just need to remove him. Change the rules before the convention to release the delegates. Have his cabinet declare him unfit for office. It would be much better for the party's chances in November if he would bow out gracefully, but if he won't do that, take the choice away from him. He will lose, so we have to do something.
Oh that’s an interesting claim. Let’s look at the citation.
Ya this isnt credible.
The goddamned fake news media at it again.
is usnews not credible enough?
My comment was sarcastic. "Fake new media" is a Trumpism.
is usnews not credible enough?
They are ostensibly working to keep them out.
For who?
Harris. Obviously. That's how the line of succession works.
Fuck that
Hear that, everybody? PythagreousTitties isn't on board with the VP of the sick and confused 81-year-old president being president. It's kinda the biggest aspect of the entire point of the office of VP, but PythagreousTitties says no, sooooo 🤷♂️
No explanation, no nuance, just "fuck that" so let's just pack it up and cross our fingers, I guess.
I'm not so sure they are an automatic shoo-in for running in the general? Maybe by convention or norms or something, but....is she the best candidate to beat donnie?
Too late to find the best candidate, that would be settled in a primary. Kamila is marginally better than Biden, and has the war chest they've fundraised. At best we get an exciting new VP
This thread isn't about that. The original comment in this post was about the 25th amendment and the first reply was asking who would replace him. The line of succession is crystal clear that the VP is acting president when the president cannot discharge duties.
Who runs if Biden drops out is a different and important question, and while I don't have a great and confident answer, there's absolutely no reason why Harris wouldn't be a good pick when we already decided she'd be fine when we voted for her to be plan b behind Biden's 77/78 year old body, so idk why that should necessarily change right now. It's like we agreed that she should be president if/when Biden couldn't do it anymore, and now we're saying he can't do it anymore, but maybe now she shouldn't be the backup plan we already decided that she should be?
Oh, fair enough. Yeah, if he is given the Amendment 25 treatment, then sure. I don't think it works any other way.
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Harris polls worse than Biden by quite a bit.
A) I'm talking about who is next in line of succession, not the nomination. If Biden's cabinet declares him unfit for office, Harris will become the President, but she doesn't have to be the nominee. B) Actually, she doesn't. Her approval is in a statistical tie with Biden's, while her disapproval is much lower. I'm not saying she's the best option (her numbers are about the same or worse than a lot of other potential candidates), but pretty much everyone's polls are looking a little better than Biden's now, and his are still going down.