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[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

My friends and a lot of my coworkers I were Bernie supporters in 2016 -- donated, attended events, etc. I made sure I was registered to vote and strongly encouraged my friends to as well. Talking to them after the primary was depressing as fuck ... most of them didn't vote, and had the lamest excuses you could imagine. It was eye opening.

Alright: whatever. Great work guys, now we get to vote for Hillary, since it was going to be either her or Trump as president. Shockingly almost none of the aforementioned friends/coworkers voted for her, and several that admitted they couldn't get off their asses to vote for him in the primary complained about how it was "stolen" from Bernie.

It was hard not slapping the shit out of them.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I can definitely understand the disillusionment of the Bernie Bros at that time. I was reaaaaally hoping he’d win the nomination.

Even as a European that whole situation really irked me. Especially the rhetoric of it being ‘Hillary’s turn’. Yes, she had a lot of political experience, but this is not an ‘it’s my turn!’ type of position. And Bernie getting shoved aside unceremoniously because it was ‘her turn’ didn’t do the Democrats any favors in the actual voting.

A lot of Bernie supporters had a post-Bernie hangover and got frustrated enough to check out of the political process. It sucks, but I understand. Let’s hope they’ll at least vote this time.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

More Bernie voters voted for Clinton in 2016 than Clinton voters voted for Obama in 2008. They had a whole group called PUMA:

We [were] protesting the 2008 Presidential election because we refuse to support a nominee who was selected by the leadership rather than elected by the voters.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I get people who voted for him in the primary being upset.

It's the people that didn't out of sheer laziness or willful incompetence complaining I have no compassion or patience for -- the number of those I knew of was shocking to me. Calling them "morons" is being charitable.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -3 points 4 months ago

Man that's a powerful drink they downed that it caused enough of a hangover for them to not even show up to the primary that was supposedly stolen from him.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did you live in a state that was closely decided for Trump over Hillary? Because, if not, the apathy of your friends likely made no difference.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If only 5% more of TX registered voters went to the polls and voted Hillary, she would have won TX.

Voter apathy is a big deal.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So, you need a situation where you need 1 million more people to show up to vote, and to vote for Hillary, and to make sure nobody shows up and votes for Trump? That's not very close.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

800,000 votes is pretty close when there were 15.1 million registered voters. People just need to stop making excuses and go vote!

If the apathy wasn't there, it would be easier to get people to the polls that are open for 2 weeks, the second of which polls are required to be open at least 12 hours.

I'm afraid that we might get Trump and Cruz again with this election, given the similar apathy this year.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

Those people are still crooning about how counting the ballots is stealing the election and ignoring the will of the people to this day.

You have to drag these people by the hair to the ballot box even for the candidate they themselves support and they wonder why everyone else doesn't just do the revolution for them.