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This is an odd argument to make for a vegan. Because both of those farms need dismantling. Just like electric AND gas cars need to be phased out. While I can agree all these things do inequal damage, it's STILL damage. Electric cars are a step but absolutely NOT a solution to climate change. Removing gas from the situation is well enough, but we need mass transit and rebuilt infrastructures to support it.
It's wise to protest the placebo so people start seeking the cure. Especially when the placebo comes in a oversized impractical truck for.
Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
I came SOOO close to putting that idiom in my response because I could see it a mile away. But what I, and the protestors themselves are saying, is that a electric cyber truck isn't even "good".
The most popular vehicle in America is a gas powered truck. If people switched to electric trucks, it would be good. It's not perfect.
Have you lived anywhere other than a dense city? Mass transit doesn’t work everywhere.
Mass transit works just fine in rural areas when it’s properly constructed. Busses are about the single worst option for mass transit, and options like high speed rail excel in connecting rural areas to urban and exurban areas with better job opportunities and connecting urbanites to rural areas, both of which bring money to the rural areas.
Switzerland has one of the best rail systems in Europe yet it has more cars per capita than the UK at 604. The US is at 850. So creating a mass transit system in the US equal to the best in Europe would only reduce car usage by 30%. That's the best possible.