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Thomas Matthew Crooks, the suspectin Saturday’s shooting, was registered as a Republican voter, according to Pennsylvania records.

Already the republicans are dismissing his voter registration as meaningless. Here comes the “mental illness” angle.

Edit: apparently it’s not uncommon to register with the party you oppose in PA. This is going to be a fun ride.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I don't mean this in a conspiratorial way, but I would not be surprised if this kid was a huge Trump fan. What better way to pump up the MAGA crowd than more bullshit to make it seem like some shadowy force was trying to stop him.

Right now the FBI has all of his friends and family in custody for interviews, the NSA is pulling all the comms info they have on him, his phone company is pulling what they have to provide...his entire life is going to get taken apart in very short order. What we actually get to see of that data probably is very little. I really hope what we need to see is disseminated quickly to not make the situation more murky.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 33 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If it was a leg shot or a deliberate miss I could go for the conspiracy angle. But as it stands he was inches away from taking trumps life, which does not scream trump supporter to me.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apparently he was hit by shattered glass from the teleprompter being shot, not grazed by a bullet.

(Not that I buy the conspiracy angle. I think it makes far more sense that we have a dangerously polarized society and a lot of seriously unhappy young men who don’t know what to do with their anger. That leads to violence.)

[–] SirMcCheese@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The glass thing was to my knowledge reported by TMZ though more recent reporting does say the bullet grazed his ear.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

A shot to the leg can cause significant bleeding and is often more deadly than say... headshots (see Gabbie Giffords).

Trained gunmen / soldiers shoot for the center-of-mass. In fact, its clear that Trump wasn't struck by a bullet now but instead by glass shards. So some glass deflected the bullet out of the way.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or the kid was just shooting at the teleprompter. Maybe he didn't intend to shoot Trump. We'll never know.

[–] xerazal@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

He was secretly trying to save trump from the sentient teleprompter

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

I know a guy who survived being shot in the head, he says doctors told him only 5% of people shot in the head survive and less recover as well as he has (he has minor issues, you'd never know if he didn't have a dent and some metal in his skull.) Sure you can easily hit an artery in the leg and leg shots are for sure deadly too, but I wouldn't say head shots are less deadly lol.

The training to aim center of mass is mainly because it is larger, if you're familiar with The Patriot you may remember the scene where Mel and his small kids shoot at the British, he illustrates this point by saying "Remember, aim small miss small."

Aiming for a larger target means you're more likely to hit the target, and yes in modern times it means you're more likely to get proper expansion of a hollow point, which means you're less likely to shoot through him into a bystander. It also does just so happen that the A zone contains the heart and lungs, which are vital organs much like the brain. Head shots are "more deadly" if you hit, center of mass is more likely to hit a vital area rather than miss simply by virtue of being larger.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would imagine that the secret service men would have tourniquets and similar on hand to stop the bleeding.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's a lot of Hollywood bullshit about guns in your understanding of the world. I'd recommend that you stop watching movies (maybe even cartoons?) and instead read up on actual tactics and some physiology.

A fat, elderly, unhealthy 78-year-old-man could die from a heart attack from the tourniquet alone. Anyone taking shots at Trump at this age is going for the kill. There's very, very few areas that are non-lethal, and those few areas are exceptionally difficult to hit 300meters away.

EDIT: A skilled marksman should be able to reliably hit someone at those ranges with an AR15. The kid fortunately wasn't a skilled marksman. But even a skilled marksman won't be aiming to do a Comic-book level or Hollywood level called shot to a non-lethal area at these ranges.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Read my comment again. The FIRST sentence specifically says I'm not going that way with my comment...

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There’s apparently a video of him saying he hates trump and republicans. It’s getting messy.

[–] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 37 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That was by a lookalike from 4chan I thought, the blue shirt video?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's certainly going to be absolutely no end to that bullshit as well.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Corporate News Sewers: "Well there's only one thing for it. MORE POLLS!!!"

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

What's surprising is how unsurprised I am by that shit. I didn't read it and go, "No way, no one would do that!" Nope. As soon as I stumbled on it, I thought, "Well of course the chuds on 4chan did that."

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, blue shirt in the car.

That would be really bizarre if a dude that looks so much like the shooter was able to whip out a video so quickly. The only thing I couldn’t quite tell was that images of the shooter looks like he has an underbite almost, and the vid clip guy looks more normal.

Edit: found it. Allegedly someone called Maxwell Yearick?

E2:… ok. So looking up Maxwell Yearick gets things a little confusing. There are nsfw images of the deceased shooter that definitely look like he has the slight underbite/protruding lower jaw. Yearick is a protester who was arrested at a political demonstration and I don’t think he looks like the video guy at all nor do I think he looks like the deceased. Blue shirt guy looks closest, but we’ll have to see what shakes out of that.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I won't be surprised if they will use generative AI to spread disinformation as well

They can make the shooter say and do more or less anything, even if it's not true

[–] suction@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

So we should all watch Rogan and infowars because those guys will figure it all out just by “asking questions” /s