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The Labour party has won over 400 seats (out of 650) in the 2024 UK General Elections, and Keir Starmer is expected to replace Rishi Sunak as Prime Minister. The Conservatives, in power for the last fourteen years, have suffered a rout, losing over two-thirds of their seats. The SNP has collapsed in Scotland, mostly to Labour, and the Liberal Democrats have gained over sixty seats.

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[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

watching from abroad it seems that keir has got no incentive or menace to make him go more to the left, which means he won't do it and sees this victory as a reward to his positions. meanwhile tory tactics of incorporating farage's discourse has finally broke down, and the votes they made out of it have returned to their rightful (pun intended) owner. libdems did their homework. sad for the snp and well deserved for the dup.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The problem is presuming someone needs incentive or malice to do that. The guy was soft-left and known to be so for years, right up until the very second he ran in the leadership election against corbyns heir Rebecca Long Bailey. At that exact moment, as if by magic, he became a neoliberal.

Its almost as if people made it up.

[–] Oggyb@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what you mean. He's well known for having one stance under Corbyn and another when leader. The first being quite radical and socially progressive, the second being essentially Tory but a bit better. Which bit did they make up: the before or after?

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well known by who? Where are these people? Are they in the room with us right now?

There isn't anything to corroborate that he was ever either one of those, let alone switched. The people who didn't want him to win the leadership simply declared it to be thus and such. Despite their claims, that not the same thing as it being true.

The "he switch after he won the leadership" is the part they made up. You have to realise that the label of neoliberal was given to him not only by his enemies within the party but by people who also don't actually know anything at all about neoclassical economics and simply use the term as a slur to throw at anyone right of the socialist campaign group that they dont like. In fact, the term has all but lost its meaning due to them.

You'd have thought that there was something in-between being a socialist and a neoliberal but, Apparently, were to beleive thats not the case.

[–] Oggyb@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well known by... his policies? The jury's still out because he only just got into power. He could go back to more Corbynite policies by stealth.

Na, his policies were nothing close to definitive on any positions. Honestly, that part of the left has been fighting the far right so long that they've lost track of where the lines are supposed to be and just lie as policy.