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[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Simplified language for learners is great. But I would suggest to learners that they use this on books that are for entertainment and save real literature for after they have the proficiency to enjoy it as it was written.

Sure, they could always reread it unaltered later, but you only get to read something for the first time once.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Who is the judge of what "real literature" is?

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ultimately, every individual reader I suppose. But don't be obtuse, when you pick up a book I think you know if it's just a fun read or if you're expecting it to be something more. Either due to a particular person's opinion, or the opinion of society in general.

If someone is reading something they would like to appreciate as art, as opposed to entertainment, I don't think it's out of bounds to suggest they might enjoy it more if they waited until they mastered the language enough to appreciate the prose.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

People on the internet, obviously.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

It's all real literature, that's what literature means...

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

These books aren't for entertainment?

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if I said something to offend you or if you just woke up this morning and decided to spend the day being a pedantic twat, but I'll pretend you're being genuine.

I thought being entertained by appreciating art would have gone without saying. But if you're such a sad sack you can't be entertained by art...well, I guess that goes a long way toward explaining your attitude.

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not upset, I'm just genuinely confused that you implied that "real literature" and "for entertainment" are separate categories. I always thought of these books as being intended for entertainment, just in an artsier/more intellectual way than Marvel movies and bideo bames. Your comment made me think you thought of them as something for intellectual enrichment rather than enjoyment.

I'm also confused why you interpreted my comment in such a hostile way, but that's another conversation probably not worth turning into an argument.

EDIT: Oh, did you think I was saying they're not for entertainment?

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oops, sorry, I thought I was replying to someone else.

I apologize for coming in so hot. I really do think entertainment and art appreciation ideally go together and didn't need to be explicitly said. I'm not in the habit of choosing to do anything I don't think I could enjoy. Forcing something for intellectual enrichment has it's place for schoolchildren, or if you feel the need for it as an adult, but these days I don't have the bandwidth. Maybe in retirement when there is more time.

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Ah, no worries. I guess I just have one of those faces. Have a better day.