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Living a radically simple permaculture life on 1/4 acre (youtu.be)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by rimu@piefed.social to c/climate

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Creatures of Place is an insight into the wonderful world of Artist as Family: Meg Ulman, Patrick Jones, and their youngest son, Woody. Living on a 1/4-acre section in a small Australian town, Meg and Patrick have designed their property using permaculture principals.

They grow most of their own food, don't own cars and ride their bikes instead, use very little electricity, and forage food and materials from their local forest.

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[–] andrewth09@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

No it's not.

The tragedy of the commons is when too many people use a public resource in a way that is unsustainable. For example, air is not privatized but air pollution impacts everyone who checks notes uses air.

That's not to say there aren't solutions to the Tragedy of the Commons problem and resources cannot be made publicly available, but systems need to be created to manage common resources.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The tragedy of the commons is when too many people use a public resource in a way that is unsustainable.

Close, but not.

The "overuse" is an aspect of mismanagement of the commons, it's not simply about overuse, it's about the management. The understanding that "someone just used up all that nice stuff" is poor, even in accordance with the author of this theory.

The tragedy is that the its so mismanaged that it allows an asshole to ruin it for everyone. That's not some default, that's what happens when you have poor management. Plenty of commons have good management and it's a known field and theory. If you want to go by this view, you can read Ostrom who actually researched the issue of management:

https://aeon.co/essays/the-tragedy-of-the-commons-is-a-false-and-dangerous-myth

https://tn.boell.org/en/2023/04/19/5-elinor-ostrom-et-les-huit-principes-de-gestion-des-communs (look for YouTube lectures too).

In practice, however, what you describe as the asshole greedily and selfishly taking from the commons is literally the act of privatization. Which is why the usual capitalist "solution" to this problem - official privatization - is a failure.

Here's also a humorous podcast explaining what's wrong with it: https://player.fm/series/srsly-wrong/ep-235-the-imaginary-tragedy-of-the-hypothetical-commons in case you like to listen.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

So lucky I decided to get that gills-surgery