Kbin/Mbin (and possibly others?) definitely have the edge here since those platforms make votes public (only admins can see them on Lemmy). So, if you want to confirm what I'm saying here, go view some of these posts from Kbin/Mbin.
Every time one of the "usual suspects" says stuff like this in the comments, there will later be posts detailing how Biden is doing (or at least earnestly trying to do) exactly the things they're saying he needs to be doing (oR ElSe i WiLl noT voTE anD NEithER ShoULD yoU!!!11!!). 100% of the time, those posts are downvoted by these same "usual suspect" accounts.
What gives? They have very strong opinions about how he should run his administration, so you'd think they'd appreciate him doing what they've been so helpfully suggesting. Unless....it was never about the issues at all.
That thin veneer of concern they're hiding behind is not as thick as they think it is and is quite easy to see through. Now you know where to look.
Edit: Please don't name and shame any specific users. That may violate the community or LW rules. We all know who most of the "usual suspects" are.
Always have to include the caveat "he's trying" to make it not a lie lol.
Neoliberals are great at trying real real hard and never getting there. Kind of like how he "tried" to convince Netanyahu to stop committing genocide and then ended up sending him billions in aid.
Nah, I'm done voting for anyone taking AIPAC money. I'll submit a blank ballot before I vote for any of those pieces of shit.
We thank you for your privilege.
*Right.
Voting is the right. Voting blank to prove a point is a privileged action.
There's people who will be in much greater risk if trump is president, and to not do everything possible to avoid that speaks to privilege.
That's all I was saying, quite frankly.
I feel like I need to give up on the internet.
You have no idea what's right.
How about today? We still feeling strong about our candidate? Feel like he's the right choice?
Yes, because I'm not fooled by optics. His policies are sound. His administration is very strong. I'm disappointed in Biden because I think he did a very bad job showing the US populace his accomplishments. But I'm tired of pretending that that's somehow worse than Trump, whose policies I actively hate.
You could just say you don't understand how federal laws are passed in the United States and I'm sure someone would you the ELI5.
This video is a pretty great introduction to how laws are passed.
Once you understand that hopefully you'll understand why Joe Biden can't just do all the things he'd like to.
This isn't a matter of passing a law. The Leahy Law and Foreign Assistance Act are already laws and already make it illegal to send military aid to a country violating human rights.
Biden could stop the military aid today.
Dang that's some irony right there. Imagine lecturing soneone on how laws are passed and not even knowing what a veto is. And trying to be condescending on top of that.
The president has powers to veto laws and also, as commander in chief he has power to delay or direct aid even when congress goes around him.
Presidents have witheld munitions and aid in the past, this isn't a question.
Biden couldn't veto anything related to Israel if he wanted to. All Republicans and enough Democrats would vote to override it instantly. Because Congress is the problem. But sure, continue to waste effort and be counterproductive.
Well then there’s zero consequences in him vetoing something, if it will be instantly overruled. Except Biden doesn’t actually care. Biden shocked Menachim Begin back in the eighties by saying the IDF should feel free to murder Palestinian civilians. He clearly hasn’t become more compassionate to the Palestinian people over time.
Wrong as always. There's always consequences. Whether or not you and I think they are worth it. Doesn't matter. Someone else will make that calculation for themselves.
For better or for worse, a lot of donors and fundraisers would abandon him. And if you think them abandoning long time substantial supporters. To chase fickle ideologues is a winning strategy that they should focus on. You're crazier than advertised. There's a very good reason they don't generally Court the votes of leftists like us. A huge portion of us don't know what solidarity, or strategy is. And will abandon them distracted at the first opportunity. We can at best make up a winning margin in some circumstances. But are not enough for them count on to win regularly. And yet. Many of us still act childishly entitled. Further cementing them not supporting us.
Also not that it should need pointing out. But when Biden was presumptuous enough to even delay the shipment of weapons recently. Both Republicans and Netanyahu together attacked him and act like he done something horrific. Many Democrats support wavering as well as there are far too many zionists among them. Now counting the man who primaried Jamal Bowman.
Lol, bazinga, you nailed me. Good job comrade, another lib owned!
Yes. The president could be doing more. No one said he can unilaterally solve the entire issue, only that he's not doing even the bare minimum. "Stern phones calls" are not enough.
It appears you've already downvoted yourself so that saves me a bit of time, ty.
Grow up.
I'd vote for a plank of wood before Trump, and it's not because I believe the plank of wood is doing the right thing in Gaza. Someone is going to become president of the United States, and unfortunately for now that's either a Republican or a Democrat. Trump will be worse in Gaza, in addition to being much worse on a whole bunch of other issues.
Ultimately I'd like to see many parties, no more electoral college and ranked choice voting. But I live here and now, so I'm going to vote for the option that's least harmful.
I, too, am a very left leftie. So I, too, will be doing checks notes exactly what the most fascist people want me to do. A corrupt Christofascist regime taking control will help us do a socialism. I am very smart.
Socialism isn't in the cards, not sure what you're on about with that. This is just about throwing a hail mary to try to stop the democratic party from continuing their slide to the right so they can even begin to actually organize to maybe be a force that might oppose fascism.
Like, that's what I think maybe you're confused about -- Joe Biden is not helping stop the encroachment of fascism, he and politicians like him are literally just slow boiling average democrats into becoming complacent fascists themselves. That's arguably an even worse scenario than Trump taking another term because when Trump does Trump stuff people actually get outraged, but when Biden does Trump stuff people just kind of shrugg and say "lesser evil". That complacency and refusal to acknowledge the reality in front 9f them is what will kill our democracy.
You still think it's this red team blue team thing, but the majority of the blue team are unwilling to actually fight and often help the red team and play grab ass with them, so they need to be opposed in addition to the red team.
What you're not getting is that we're past the stage where you can just vote blue and it will magically fix things. Voting for certain democrats is actually harmful and pushses us to the right, not away from it.
"A Trump term is better for stopping fascism, because of reasons." Pretty delusional. He has already done a putsch and is promising to be a dictator.
You have been living under a rock. When the Repubs win the Dems go further right, not left.
AIPAC donated $15 million to a racist “democrat” in New York to unseat Jamaal Bowman. The Democratic Party regularly supports people who are against the stated platform of the party. When they are in power they don’t do shit to improve life for average people because they also only care about the moneyed interests that support them. Now they’re refusing to say anything about Israel prosecuting a genocide, when they could end it in a week. If Biden cut off aid pending a full ceasefire, the IDF would be out of Gaza and the West Bank overnight. But because of reasons, Biden and the democrats won’t do shit, and innocent Palestinians will continue to be tortured and murdered using American made weapons.
Right? That's why, I, a left leftie, will be doing exactly the actions desired by the party even further right than the Dems. That will show them. They won't go further right, as they have in the past. This time will be different and they will go further left. So it won't matter if the Repubs get the National Guard in to beat the shit out of protestors, the Dems will rise up and oppose that. But only if the Repubs win!
This is quite possibly only one of the biggest loads of opinion-as-fact, misinformative nonsense I think I’ve seen anyone post in a very long time here.
You could just throw a period right there and call it a day.
Yep, and that’s about as much weight anyone should give to your comments. That sums you up perfectly.. “a blank”
Better this than planting sunflower eh?
Here’s one now!
Just admit you have no fucks to give to those that live here in America and instead, will side with people in a country you probably couldn’t have pointed to on a map a year ago and save us all the suffering of having to constantly explain how things work to you.
Yeah, as long as upper middle-class Americans are comfortable, absolutely. Saving you from the consequences of your own conservative politics would be a great honor. The rest of the country and world just needs to take a few more for the team am I right?
The simple fact that you’re suggesting that my politics are “conservative” truly shows you’re not here to even try to be in good faith.
An in fairness. I’m only here to help you call yourself out.
I honestly have nothing to say to this. It’s really just THAT ignorant.