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Proton is transitioning towards a non-profit structure (proton.me)

submitted 5 months ago by ex_06 to c/technology

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[–] solo 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Cmon… It’s a sentence linked to the next one. They are not using that as a way to justify anything, they just explained...

This is precisely the reason why I used both quotes. For me, their "explanation" is pure nonsense. Even more so due to their claim latter on in this same text, saying that:

we are activists, too.

On your question on which email provider I'm using, I could say that my activity does not demand precautions like VPN but there are some providers that I don't use. Proton is one of them, because they promised to users and delivered for police. And what did they have to say on their promises?

We will be making updates to our website to better clarify Proton Mail’s obligations in cases of criminal prosecution and we apologize if this was not clear.

This sounds to me like "sorry for making false promises, we just wanted our statement to sound cool enough to convince you to use our services".

[–] ex_06 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

For me, their "explanation" is pure nonsense

It’s badly written imo. There are 2 implicit informations:

proton couldn’t give them anything else
the ip was not used to track them anyway (yes it’s cringe to say but i mean I’m not Andy Chen nor the people who proof checked the post lol)

there are some providers that I don't use

Ye, I’m asking to know which provider you use that does not comply with local law

sorry for making false promises

Promises were never false. They did not track ip and they don’t. They had to start for that specific user after the order…

It’s more like “we didn’t add extra clauses to our statements to make it clearer from start that bla bla bla”.

Marketing can be useful for a lot of reasons but it should never take the place of education. And vice versa.

[–] solo 0 points 4 months ago

Promises were never false. They did not track ip and they don’t. They had to start for that specific user after the order…

That's the definition of a false promise.