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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 4 months ago (32 children)

Not voting is a sure fire way to have your voice ignored.

"You want change but you're not going to vote towards making it happen because it doesn't happen already? Why the fuck do you think things aren't changing for the better‽"

Voting is so fuckin important, especially in local elections. Local politics bleeds into county politics, which bleeds into state politics which bleeds into country politics.

It all starts locally.

You want bike lanes in your city? Vote.

You want better funding in your schools? Vote.

You want more affordable housing in your area? Vote.

Vote in every election. No exceptions.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (26 children)

Hi there, as a Seattle local I have a legitimate question for you. The local democrats I voted for turned around and gerrymandered the socialist 3 term serving city council member out of office. The only member that was actually pushing for the working class politics I wanted from my district representative. What kind of incremental change can I expect to really see when that is how the party at large operates?

Edit: laughing at these down votes, yall are deeply unseriouse people.

[–] SirSnufflelump@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately gerrymandering is a flaw in the democratic process. At least in the US, the Voting Rights Act makes it so political parties cannot redraw districts to decrease the political influence of racial or ethnic groups. It says nothing about other political parties, so whichever party is in power when voting lines need to be redrawn will inevitably try to redraw the lines in their favor. Until that sort of gerrymandering is outlawed, it will continue to happen. The party in power isn't going to make it fair for their competition out of the kindness of their heart.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Right but none of what you said answers the question: What kind of incremental change can I expect to really see when that is how the party at large operates?

When true change is threatened it is dealt with in two ways, recuperation or rejection. Anything else is not change that threatens the systems of power and is allowed to be squabbled over.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Talk politics with people in your area, get to know people IRL, show up to city council things, do the leg work when you can. Again local elections happen locally with the people in your locality.

The incremental change that is had in this situation is not having the GQP win. Yeah the maps got redrawn in a way you don't like this time but don't stop fighting for what you see is right.

When you stop fighting the people you fight against will be able to steam roll through.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, looking beyond one local election might help. Sure, your district may not have gone the way you want, but another may have gone further.

If all you care about is what matters directly to you, then you're in for a bad time.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Well, looking beyond one local election might help.

You don't quite understand what I am referencing if you think when I talk of recuperation that I am just referencing one election. Black Lives Matter is the biggest lightning rod that was very obviously recuperated in order to diminish it's radical politics, MLK was literally assassinated when his politics got too radical and threatening of the status quo and then his legacy was recuperated, even the New Deal was recuperation of the strongest labor movement because of it's deep socialist roots.

These are long standing ongoing problems with our political system and those that maintain it's power.

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