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[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Body puts off heat too. White reflects it back, black lets it escape.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

The temperature of the shirt itself will have a majority of the impact on the heat transfer. Whether a given pigment is reflective in the ir is impossible to predict by eye, see below. Black shirts will warm you up more in general, though offer better protection against UV. You can however get special UV protective white colored shirts.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Google says : colors do not absorb different amounts of heat, only heat from light.

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Google also says to put glue on your pizza.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago

I mean some people put pineapple on it

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Body emits infrared radiation. Sun does too. They make foil-lined jackets to reflect this heat. White shirts do it too, as shown in the image.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not according to science articles on the web. infrared penetrates regardless of colour, visible light spectrum capturea or reflects the rest.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It depends on the absorptivity of the pigment at that given wavelength. Foil for example works because in ye infrared it is still reflective. Without an infrared camera and an infrared light it's impossible to tell what the infrared absorptivity of a given shirt is by eye. The science articles are not giving the full picture.

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It seems it’s still an active debate and area of research, but the answer is more complex than wavelengths and emissivity. If you want to know whether black or white is cooler in the sun, it depends on: the breathability or knit, the amount of UV hitting the skin, the amount of skin contact with the fabric, wind speed, relative humidity, how the fabric wets and wicks moisture, and more. We could look at a black trash bag and say, well it’s transparent to IR, and it blocks the visible spectrum, therefore it’s a good shirt material to keep one cool. And obviously that would be wrong. In the same way it’s wrong to say: a white shirt feels less hot when you touch it, therefore it keeps the wearer cooler.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, all of that is obviously true between shirts, the question is about shirt color, which is almost entirely down to the pigments used in fabrication. In which case it is entirely due to the absorptivity, emissivity, reflectance, and opacity, of the pigment.

This isn't an active area of debate, it's an entirely empirical question or a hard modeling problem per shirt manufacturer. All of this is very solved science, and has become "an engineering problem"

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

Well if protection from solar heat is the goal, it will be hard to beat the “chrome dome” or reflective parasol. Sometimes the ground reflects quite a bit of heat from below, like snow. Then I guess a shirt might out-perform a parasol.