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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

So this is really where we're at. Team Biden is really going to take the HRC 16 strat of just fucking giving up on promising anything meaningful and going "what are you going to do, vote for that Bozo?"

That's a bold strategy, Cotton.

[–] silence7 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

Thanks for sharing that. Biden's done a lot of things I agree with, I was actually pretty impressed with him until the Palestinian genocide. I wish that this is what the Biden camp was talking about. Instead, all of the messaging seems to be "the economy is fine, actually, you're complaining about nothing" or "well, at least he's not Trump", and I don't think that kind of messaging will carry the day.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's absolutely not what they are doing. Biden has delivered on a lot of his promises and done a great job.

If you are still bOtH sIdInG after you've seen the damage Trump had done, you are beyond reason.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

I'm not both siding. I'm in disbelief that in an election as important is this one, the democrats have decided that the best strategy they can use is "you don't really have a choice, you have to vote for me because I'm not Trump." Which, at best, has a track record of a 50% success rate, and arguably has a 0% success rate. I say 0% because, the way I remember it, that wasn't the strategy the Biden camp ran with in '20; they hadn't forgot that people actually did vote for Trump before. This was basically HRC's messaging in 16, "suck it up, vote blue no matter who, because, I mean, are you really going to vote for that Bozo?" And they found out the answer to that question the hard way. I don't want the democrats to learn already learned lessons at the expense of the entire country. It just feels like they're playing stupid games for themselves to win stupid prizes for everyone.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)
  1. Genocide in Gaza.

Really don't have to keep giving reasons for not voting for Biden after that. That is a full-stop so not vote for this guy type of thing.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You do realize that Joe Biden isn't president of Israel?

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You do realize we are supplying weapons for Israel to continue its genocide, right?

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You do realize we sell weapons to most of the world? Is Joe responsible for every gun fired ever?

I don't even know why I'm engaging with this, you're clearly either a troll or a bad faith actor.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Keep with the absurd arguments. 👍

And then call me a troll. 🙄

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you'll vote for trump, who will worsen the outlook in Palestine and Gaza in LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE WAY he can?

Biden's fighting with Bibi, trump will encourage him. It's not the binary you think it is.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

No, you dumbass, I will not vote for Trump. Is reading comprehension entirely gone? Tell me where I said I was going to vote for Trump.

It is possible to vote for someone else.

Biden is fighting Bibi is patiently untrue. The weapons keep getting sent.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

so....? you won't vote biden, and you say you won't vote trump. why are you pissing and moaning about it all so much if you're just gonna sit around with your thumb up your ass DOING NOTHING?

jfc get a grip

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your dumb ass replied to me. I was talking to someone else. Why are you wasting my time?

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

you piss and moan about how bad it is and only want to make things worse.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Do you know anyone with diabetes? Statistically speaking, you do, even if you don't know you know.

Biden's capped their insulin at $35, instead of the unlimited bullshit americans were struggling with FOR THEIR VERY LIVES.

Happy to enumerate a bunch of others but that alone should make anyone feel better about choosing biden because trump literally doesn't believe there's a climate emergency - he's said on record day one he will open up drilling to everyone.

I'm not asking you to like Biden, I'm asking you to admit, there are a number of issues where it's STARK which options we face when we choose who we vote for.