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[–] mydude@lemmy.world 84 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

This is the cognitive dissonance politicians need to have in order to be a good tool as a techno fascist for the exploitation-class.

[–] johker216@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

My dude got that cognitive distance

[–] don@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Keep it at least 6 feet (2 meters for non-freedom folk) at least, fam

[–] mydude@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

English is my second language, used spell check, without thinking too much about it! Sorry 😁

[–] PhineaZ@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

What is a techno-fascist? What did I mis?

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fascists that enjoy techno music of course!

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

That does it! I was beginning to get a bit tired of all the murder, oppression, fraud and general fascism but I draw the line at bad music!

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The specific kind of American Libertarian pseudo-fascists who look to technology to save us from everything.

Basically, the Managed Democracy of Super Earth from Helldivers. That sums it up pretty well. Fascism in its corporate-friendly, AI-run form where CEOs of tech-related companies have most of the real power outside the State.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

It's the collaboration of the state and private contractors in documenting everything to computers. The process started around the 1970s - mostly with police departments using crimes of the past to, er, "predict" where future crimes will happen (ie, they put the number of incidents in a calculator and did an extrapolation).

Half a century latter, there's a lot of documentation. So much. In private databases, federal databases -- plus everything that's accessible online. It's impossible for a person to actually sort through, so we automate the sorting. It's like extrapolating from incidents, but also adding in keyword sorting and evolutionary trial-&-error algorithms.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 2 points 6 months ago

https://newrepublic.com/article/180487/balaji-srinivasan-network-state-plutocrat

I think this is the same article I saw on Lemmy a few weeks ago, it very thoroughly explains the topic. In very simple words though, I have bad news about what all those tech billionaires in Silicon Valley are planning to do with their money.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

While I am strongly against a database of pregnant women, especially in regards of the obvious purpose of it.

I am not sure if I would call it cognitive dissonance... Fascistic? Sure.

The idea behind the tracking of pregnancy is the protection of the individual "Child" and "future member of the society" against "overreaching authoritarian forces" which could lead to the death of said "member". And the threat to the "child" is not the government but rather the mother and the supporting force would be the government. So placing the information to control into the hands of the government is an obvious choice.

In the case of gun ownership, the government is the threat for which the guns exist. The government is the "overreaching authoritarian force" and the gun owner is the "member". The government isn't the ally and therefore can't be trusted with such a list.

Again I am not agreeing them these people. I just don't think that is cognitive dissonance. I think a better example would the desire for a small government and a database of pregnant women to spy on.

Again imo idiots but not hypocrites for that (specifically... Because they are, just not for that)

[–] mydude@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The idea behind the tracking of pregnancy is the protection of the individual "Child" and "future member of the society" against "overreaching authoritarian forces" which could lead to the death of said "member". And the threat to the "child" is not the government but rather the mother and the supporting force would be the government. So placing the information to control into the hands of the government is an obvious choice.

I,m not sure I follow here, but I don't think the government is trustworthy with holding this information, wether it was given by the mother "freely" or not. The government has proven over and over it is not to be trusted with such personal data. If a complication or a situation change arises and the mother has to end her pregnancy. It will be used for punishment.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

Oh I agree but I am strictly talking from the perspective of the idiots who would want such a list.

They want the government to police those poor women in order to "protect" the "child", so the government can be "trusted" from their pov. And they want the government to police the women because from their pov, the mother is a danger to the "child".

In the case of the guns, their opinion is that the guns will protect them against the government and so you don't want them to have that list.