this post was submitted on 16 May 2024
1884 points (98.6% liked)

Lefty Memes

4378 readers
147 users here now

An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!

Rules

Version without spoilers

0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such


That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.


That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


4. No Bigotry.


The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)


6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



  1. Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 117 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

… but it’s just a few bad apples. Most cops are very fine people.

Edit: /s Jesus

[–] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, kinda hilarious that you had to add a sarcasm tag. And sad.

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I was hopeful the two separate clues - “just a few bad apples” plus “very fine people on both sides” would be a banger. Maybe it was just too good.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Wanted a post-scarcity world but ended up with a post-satire one instead.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Nah it's because there are people who actually believe that shit so it's hard to gauge sarcasm.

It's a lot like how people make jokes about landlords. A lot of the people are being sarcastic but there's enough of them that are serious that you can't really tell the difference.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 months ago

This goes so hard. I'd love this on a shirt

[–] xavier_berthiaume@jlai.lu 4 points 6 months ago

The only good advertising I've ever seen

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The original intent of that metaphor is correct in your use, but it’s rarely recognized. It began as “a rotten apple quickly infects its neighbor.” Over time, it became “one bad apple ruins the bunch.” Now it’s used as just “one bad apple” to infer minimal or selective corruption, completely discrediting the point of the analogy.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's also worth noting the implication of the full phrase. If you remove the bad apples quickly enough, then you can save the rest. If you can remove the corrupt elements, then you can protect the group overall. If you leave them to fester then you'll have a lot more cutting required to clean up.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Absolutely. Also very applicable to OP’s point.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's kind of ironic that you had to add the /s since most people never think to finish the adage.

A few bad apples spoil the bunch

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Like "pull yourself up by your bootstraps", its full meaning has been cut off in order to support the opposite point.

[–] kwomp2@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

... they fine just a few people. But most apples are bad cops.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

most apples are bad cops.

Lawsuit incoming from Golden Delicious PD