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[–] kingshrubb@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

His character is kinda a dick in the show too.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The ending of the show kinda makes me think they were the original IASIP gang. Every other character outside of the main group thought they were assholes, and they literally went to jail for it.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Sunny was originally marketed as "Seinfeld on crack."

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"haha, we knew we assholes along!"

It was also universally hated by fans. IASIP made sure there was no confusion about the characters morality.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's not why it was hated, it was hated because it was a bad and abrupt ending that didn't go with the rest of the show.

I don't think anyone was under any illusions that the Seinfeld characters were supposed to be anything other than horrible people.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

There were definitely people who modeled their behavior or at least excused their actions based on Seinfeld. My aunt for instance.

There's a long, long history of idiots missing the point of various pieces of fiction. The Prince, Fight Club and the original MS Gundam come to mind. Yoshikazu Yasuhiko even felt the need create Gundam: The Origin because too many kids thought Gundam's message was "War is cool".

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Of course they were annoying assholes, that's why we watched it. They're New Yorkers ffs.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He wasn't why the show was funny

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Any show named after the main character can run perfectly well without it.

Dawsons creek Seinfeld Will and grace Etc.

[–] Deway@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Friends would have been okay with Janice and Gunter. Community only needs the Dean. The big bang theory would have been better with just a black screen.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I think you mean The big bang theory would have been better without the big bang (although pre season 4 isn't too bad).

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Community only needs the Dean.

I mean, technically, yes. It would work but it wouldn't be Community. Abed is the cornerstone though if set alone wouldn't work out, you also need sidekick Troy as an audience surrogate so we can all ride along. Troy&Abed on a space station would still be Community with different support characters.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago

Community to return as a Red Dwarf reboot?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

🎶 Troy&Abed on a space station 🎶

[–] suction@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ever since be took Leno‘s side in the Tonight Show feud between Leno and Conan, he became non redeemable to me.

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

That's like the least bad thing he's done.