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Next steps after the bear (lemmy.cafe)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/mensliberation@lemmy.ca
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As has been discussed already here in this community, the key takeaway from the bear hypothetical is that it is an opportunity to truly listen to the lived experiences of women under patriarchal systems. I encourage "first response" to the bear discussion to head back to this post, as I am looking for discussion kind of after the fact. If this is your first exposure to the bear thing, head there, then pop back here after you have a good handle on the situation.

My question has two parts:

  1. Positive Steps: Let's explore resources for folks to act on the things they have learned from this discussion.
  2. Creating a Safe Space: During the course of the debate, it's likely that high emotions have led to lashing out and unkind words, perhaps even unintentionally directed towards men who may be survivors of SA themselves. Can we create a space here for listening and affirming one another about these potentially painful experiences?
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[–] punkisundead 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I dont like your assumption of the safety of everyone here. While I agree that most participants are probably not in a super dangerous situation right now, some probably are because you can literally participate here from everywhere in the world if you have an internet connection.

For me "safe(r) space" reads as a call for mindful and careful discussions and I dont understand why you call that out in this aggressive and insensitive way.

Edit:

non-existent than clothes on the body of Sydney Sweeney.

Just noticed this part of your comment. Like why bring up the way a woman dresses? Its none of your business and reads like you think being upset about her choices. Please stop commenting such things.

[–] Jafoo@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"I dont like your assumption of the safety of everyone here"

And I'm not a fan of the redefinition "safety" has undergone, via the miracle of Concept Creep https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/concept-creep/477939/ Clearly, the definitions of "aggressive" and "insensitive" have also taken on increasingly elastic definitions

[–] punkisundead 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes its everyone else and not you. I get it.