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[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You seem to have confused Conservative politics with Fundamentalist Christianity. They are separate ideals but hard to find separately currently. Somebody can be a fiscal conservative and not buy into the social fundamental conservative position.

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Check again, conservatives are no longer fiscally conservative and have not been for several decades. That facade has entirely fallen away to reveal the real:

  • fundamentalist christians
  • racists
  • filthy rich people who want tax cuts for the rich (do not confuse this with being fiscally conservative)
[–] ruination@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

They are fiscally conservative... but only for any government programs that aren't tax cuts for the rich.

[–] democracy1984@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being conservative ≠ liking the GOP

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being conservative = tangentially supporting GOP policies

[–] democracy1984@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not every GOP policy is bad. Do you think stuff like freedom of speech is a bad thing?

[–] neoman4426@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those two sentences are unrelated since the GOP is pretty explicitly against freedom of speech given all their book banning and don't say gay bills and the like. Unless you're defining freedom of speech their absolutely brain dead way they use it of 'We're free to openly be as big of a piece of shit as we like with no consequences. If you use your freedom of speech to call us out, or use your freedom of association to kick us off your property you're oppressing us' in which case yeah, that's still a bad policy, naming a bad policy after a good one to trick people doesn't make it a good policy

[–] democracy1984@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Freedom of speech means you can't be arrested for what you say. Any policies that ban certain types of speech are very clearly unconstitutional.

We're free to openly be as big of a piece of shit as we like with no consequences. If you use your freedom of speech to call us out, or use your freedom of association to kick us off your property you're oppressing us

Using freedom of speech to defend your opinion is literally saying "my opinion is valid because it's not illegal".

[–] neoman4426@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

So the GOP is by policy against freedom of speech as you've defined it, and is passing laws that are unconstitutional, and thus the initial mention of freedom of speech is a non sequitur not intended as an example of GOP policy that isn't bad, got it, glad we established that. So do you have any examples of policies the GOP does have that aren't bad?

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think fiscally conservative means?

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it should result in reducing the deficit - which republicans don't and democrats do.

all the GOP does is cut the taxes of rich and raise the taxes of the middle class, while running up the deficit overall.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is exactly what fiscally conservative means. That's 100% what I expect when a politician has conservative economic views. Conservatives value keeping the status quo, and the status quo is capitalism, with the rich getting richer.

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

yeah, but people not in the know think it just means 'prudent government spending'. What it actually means is funnel as much money from the government/taxpayer to the existing rich as possible. I think we are saying the same thing, cheers

[–] fugepe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Your meds, take them

[–] SquareRouteCanal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This be libertarian. Me no bother you. You no take my money/freedom/et al.

Democrats and republicans are all corporate national socialists who want to take all your shit and trick you into liking it.