265
this post was submitted on 11 May 2024
265 points (97.5% liked)
THE POLICE PROBLEM
2456 readers
297 users here now
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
♦ ♦ ♦
Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
♦ ♦ ♦
RULES
① Real-life decorum is expected. Please don't say things only a child or a jackass would say in person.
② If you're here to support the police, you're trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.
③ Saying ~~cops~~ ANYONE should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They're about killing people; we're not.
④ Please don't dox or post calls for harassment, vigilantism, tar & feather attacks, etc.
Please also abide by the instance rules.
It you've been banned but don't know why, check the moderator's log. If you feel you didn't deserve it, hey, I'm new at this and maybe you're right. Send a cordial PM, for a second chance.
♦ ♦ ♦
ALLIES
• r/ACAB
♦ ♦ ♦
INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
♦ ♦ ♦
ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Jesus christ that is so fucking disgusting. What kind of line is that? Does he think he's in a movie or something? Cops literally live in an alternate reality where they're some kind of action heros or something as they physically assault second graders with autism and threaten them with institutionalization.
Cops are bullies who get off on shit like this.
If that was my child, the rest of my days would be spent in pursuit of consequences for that policeman.
On extreme to another. Teachers have no control over the class anymore because of kids that just do whatever they want, so now we're to the other extreme... police arresting a 7 year old kid.
It would sure help a lot if we would sufficiently fund education programs so that class sizes weren't massive and teachers weren't wildly overstretched. Children are the same as they always have been, plus a little early life trauma from the pandemic and the rising cost of living crisis.
Arguably more docile and broken than ever before, given the current administrative policies. Kids used to do all sorts of crazy shit. Now everyone is terrified in to obedience from day one.
But its never enough. We whip kids until they spit at us, and then we cage them or shoot them.
Kids are being raised by kids more than ever(and I don't mean age wise) I %100 agree we need more teachers, better pay for them, and smaller class sizes, but we are at the other extreme.
I've been teaching in Title I schools...elementary, middle, and high school...where about 70% of students come from low-income households for twenty years. Not only are you dead wrong, your prejudice is showing.
Where the fuck did I say anything about race or income? You're the one that brought that up. Get off your high horse; our test scores, no child left behind, stagnant and low teacher pay, large class sizes and admins who don't stand up to parents and toss the teachers under the bus have caused this...race and income have nothing to do with it.
"Kids are being raised by kids" is shorthand for "poor, inner city students". Don't feign ignorance. You knew very well your implication.
Wow way to read into shit that isn't there. Go find some other bullshit grenade to fall on. Nothing I said had anything to do with just the inner city. I literally even said that it's all schools, rural, inner city, rich or poor, they all are having the same issue....but holy fuck are you some ignorant shit if your incapable of understanding how bad our schools are right now....and even funnier that you search for racism/classism that isnt there.
Increased class sizes. Reduced funding. More obnoxious administrative interference. Standardized test after standardized test.
But hey, maybe its the kids' fault.
Incidentally, the Superindendent of HISD just fired all the janitors in the district. So now that's on the teachers' heads too.