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Does not make me sad he's gone, tbh.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 65 points 6 months ago (4 children)

One of the things he takes offence about is that Bluesy has moderation.

He should know that moderation is needed to be useable by nearly anyone.

[–] Skepticpunk@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hope he realizes that having moderation isn't a choice social media websites get to make anymore. That's Apple and Google's choice now. Why? Because in order to have literally any userbase at all nowadays, you have to have an app. Websites barely get used in comparison to phone apps. And if you don't bother moderating your website and let people send things like racial slurs and child porn unabated, you get kicked off the app stores by Apple and Google. Not to mention that payment companies don't like those things either.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That situation (apple and Google as sole gatekeepers) is fucked up and should change with the new eu open markets legislation.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yea... no moderation would mean flooding of ads, spam, porn, child porn, etc.
I think it's dumb af for someone like him to bitch about moderation.

Example:
https://kbin.social/m/opensource
Versus
https://sh.itjust.works/c/opensource@kbin.social

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

still new here-- how do you interact with kbin pages while being logged into a different instance? i'm on lemmy.zip and go subscribe and fetch intance but it says page not found

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It works the same a a remote instance lemmy page.
Most likely .zip banned that community, which I'm also considering since it's mostly spam.
Actually, kbin itself is mostly spam lately

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago

Actually, kbin itself is mostly spam lately

Yes. People over there should probably move to Mbin instances

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

thanks for the information! the fusillade of BUY MY XANAX ads reminded me of the old AIM days

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if he's been taken out of context, but bluesky is supposed to have opt-out moderation, and the ability to opt-in to multiple moderation servers (a little like adlists in ublock et al), which doesn't seem like a terrible idea, but it sounds like they've gone further and completely removed stuff, because in reality it isn't decentralised at all.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Having the ability to opt out of moderation sounds very dangerous.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

you can't opt out of bsky's own moderation if you want to use bluesky pbllc's infrastructure

[–] grrgyle 3 points 6 months ago

As a member of some unmod groups back in the early internet I can't but concur

It can be safely done with very small, or very cool, groups of folks, but not on the open internet.