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Star Wars should learn from Andor and stop making Disney Plus shows that are so obsessed with the Jedi (www.yahoo.com)
submitted 6 months ago by AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to c/moviesandtv@lemm.ee
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  • Star Wars Disney Plus shows should move away from Jedi-centric stories and explore other aspects of the Star Wars universe
  • Andor is a successful example of a Star Wars show without Jedi, focusing on the Empire's control and morally gray characters
  • Suggestions for new Star Wars show ideas include Pod Racing, Jawa Storage Wars, and One Man and His Droid, among others
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[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It just requires more risk, which is why it hasn't been tried as much.

"tell more stories about the jedi without retreading the same ground" is the same request as "tell more stories about the star wars universe without retreading the same ground" just with less risk, and in turn with less potential for truly interesting and unique ideas

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What you're asking for is not Star Wars, but Traveller.

Which could be great, honestly, but it wouldn't be Star Wars.

I bet it would save Disney a lot in licensing fees to Lucas though, not having to use his characters and pay for them.

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[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Rogue One at times feels more like Star Wars than the original trilogy, and doesn't have a single Jedi in it.

Your measurement for what counts as "Star Wars" seems pretty arbitrary. 4 would be essentially the same movie even without the presence of any Jedi.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Rogue One at times feels more like Star Wars than the original trilogy, and doesn’t have a single Jedi in it.

I guess I've just seen more movies than you, because it didn't feel like a Star Wars story, it seemed like a spy movie trying to escape with plans to a weapon. 🤷‍♂️

Your measurement for what counts as “Star Wars” seems pretty arbitrary.

I'm pretty sure that the most iconic type of thing in the storytelling for Star Wars, the most recognize and beloved, would be Force wielders.

That the Force, and how it manifests itself in the storytelling, is what makes Star Wars, Star Wars.

And that most would agree with my opinion on the matter. It's been in the news and stories and magazines etc etc etc long enough prove that point.

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[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I guess I’ve just seen more movies than you

I guess you just don't really understand Star Wars as well as you think you do 🤷‍♂️

it's an aesthetic and a setting

if you define it as a narrative you can't step outside the first three films

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I guess you just don’t really understand Star Wars as well as you think you do 🤷‍♂️

You really don't have to keep attacking me you know? We could just discuss the points instead.

it’s an aesthetic and a setting

So is Traveller TTRPG, or Babylon Five, Warhammer 40K, etc., etc.

But none of them are Star Wars.

if you define it as a narrative you can’t step outside the first three films

I'm not, you keep assuming I am, but I'm not.

I'm talking the unique points of the world building/lore. You can have different narratives in story telling for the same world (or in this case, galaxies).

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[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago

You really don’t have to keep attacking me you know?

buddy i literally just took what you said and changed a few words around. if it feels like attacking you then maybe do some self reflection?

where have i attacked you?

So is Traveller TTRPG, or Babylon Five, Warhammer 40K, etc., etc.

put literally anything from 40k next to literally anything from star wars and it becomes painfully obvious that they're two distinct properties

you're aware 40k essentially also has the force too, right? i'm not sure what point you're trying to make here

I’m talking the unique points of the world building/lore.

what unique points?

jedi are reskinned samurai, and the force is just a reskinned magic system combined with reskinned buddhism