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So, I'm just assuming we've all seen the discussions about the bear.
Personally I feel that this is an opportunity for everyone to stop and think a little about it. The knee-jerk reaction from many men seems to be something along the lines of "You would choose a dangerous animal over me? That makes me feel bad about myself." which results in endless comments of the "Akchully... according to Bayes theorem you are much more likely to..." kind.
It should be clear by now that it doesn't lead to good places.
Maybe, and I'm open to being wrong, but maybe the real message is women saying: "We are scared of unknown men."
Then, if that is the message intended, what do we do next? Maybe the best thing is just to listen. To ask questions. What have you experienced to make you feel that way?
I firmly believe that the empathy we give lays a foundation for other people being willing to have empathy for the things we try to communicate.
It doesn't mean we should feel bad about ourselves, but just to recognize that someone is trying to say something, and it's not a technical discussion about bears.
What do you think?

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s not a maybe, that’s literally the entire point of the message. Unknown men are all too often kinda shitty because we have zero systems in place to teach men how to be good people and many systemic ways in which we’re told that we’re automatically better. We’re generally physically bigger, generally stronger, and, for the most part, taught to be entitled to a woman we happen to fancy.

But yes, you’ve read it correctly and we shouldn’t be getting upset but instead working on making ourselves more trustworthy. And it won’t happen in our lifetimes but it’ll be progress.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 17 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Who teaches you that you're entitled to a woman you fancy?

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago

Traditional Western media. The hero always gets the girl?

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago
[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Le Roman de la Rose, a mediaeval French poem that informed the tropes of western heterosexual media for the last thousand years.

[–] punkisundead 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 0 points 6 months ago

I don't think so, I think perhaps it's a lesson you're teaching yourself through unconscious bias.