In the UK where there's universal healthcare, we had Dr. Harold Shipman who murdered a lot, and a current court case with Lucy Letby who killed 8 newborns. Malpractice happens in every system regardless of how it's funded.

Probably not the place for a discussion about healthcare systems on a meme shitpost thread, but I do think there's better alternatives to universal healthcare where standards usually drop for everybody. Obviously, there's some godawful private systems too, just look at America.

[–] mace@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

nice anecdotes. the data say more socialized systems have better performance overall, time and time again.

i would link you, but being a smart conservative, i’m sure you know the googles and how to separate emotional arguments and facebook memes from reporting on data-driven studies.

[–] whoami@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I'll note that it's extremely hard to vet for that sort of behaviour in doctors and preempt the cases you've described from happening - they could have just as easily happened under private healthcare.

[–] 00@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

but I do think there's better alternatives to universal healthcare where standards usually drop for everybody.

Citations needed

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having lived in two countries with universal health care and in the states I can safely say you are full of shit and the American system only works if you have a ton of money.

One of my good friends got fired after being diagnosed with cancer and because she made over the amount for Medicare already she was out of pocket until the next year.

That’s a cruel system where you buy your way into the line.

[–] Crunkle_Foreskin@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I totally agree, the American system is awful. Germany, on the other hand, has the most beds per person in the G7. Fully insurance driven.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

89% of Germans are covered by public health insurance funds, with 11% covered by private health insurance.

Both public and private systems are currently struggling due to inflation.