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    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Fucking with display drivers to get your shit to boot is several magnitudes harder than ignoring an ad.

    Found the Nvidia user.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Nah, the last time this user tried Linux was probably 2005. You can get to a desktop and install proprietary drivers from the app store relatively painlessly on most distros.

    [–] knexcar@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Nope, last Christmas I struggled to get Linux Mint to play a Steam game using Proton. Booting would lead to a crash, adding some flags would lead to the game being incredibly laggy. Mint had an option for proprietary drivers, but the game would crash regardless of the flags. In the end, turns out Mint was downloading the wrong drivers, and I had to manually download the correct ones from Nvidia’a website to finally get the game to work with average performance.

    It took multiple hours of troubleshooting during my one Christmas vacation of the year. Meanwhile my brother, who had an identical laptop playing the same game on Windows, ran it flawlessly with great performance.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

    I'm sorry to hear that, dual graphics can be a pain. If you feel like trying it again I'd love to recommend pop os, it should handle dual graphics out of the box. It's just something that isn't well supported thanks to Nvidia's proprietary graphics.

    [–] someacnt_@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

    It is interesting how many people reports that distros does not work out-of-the-box. While for me, most things work. It's hard to partition things correctly but that's that..

    [–] pro_grammer@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Found the Nvidia user.

    Nvidia? That small gpu maker? They are so rare in the market!

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    They also historically are terrible on Linux. Now that AI has taken off there is a little more incentive not to suck

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Now that AI has taken off there is a little more incentive not to suck

    Their AI accelerators don't have graphics output ports.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

    I said a little

    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    And? Oh look at me I bought the best product in it's price class, I'm a niche user or something.

    Year of the Linux desktop 2024.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

    Oh look at me I bought the ~~best~~ worst product...

    ... for use with Linux

    FTFY

    NVidia being the worst choice for Linux is hardly news.

    Year of the Linux desktop 2024

    https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/9/23954205/valve-steam-deck-multiple-millions 🤷

    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

    Valve invests billions of dollars and loses money on 4M decks and everyone is screaming success 🤷‍♂️

    EA resold more copies of Skyrim on switch.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Valve invests billions of dollars and loses money on 4M decks and everyone is screaming success 🤷‍♂️

    You're the one who bought the wrong tool (NVidia GPU) for the job. Blame nobody but yourself. Intel and AMD is fine since at least 15 years.

    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

    No, I didn't. I have a faster GPU at a lower price with my timing and I can play every single one of my games. It's easy and I don't have to do shit. I don't have to make sure drm doesn't work and I don't have to find some utility it script to get DPI resolution scaling working. You're just pouty because Linux isn't a good solution for a large chunk of users.

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    If it weren't Nvidia's fault, like, as in they don't support linux on purpose "because fuck you, you do not matter, you'll use the OS we choose and like it," maybe you'd have a point. They could do it, easily, but they don't because they do not care about their users.

    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Doesn't matter to the users. Yeah it sucks. Doesn't change the hurdles it adds.

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Doesn't change the fact that those hurdles are caused by nvidia on purpose and they could fix it tomorrow if they wanted, either. Don't be mad at linux about falling victim to it, be mad at nvidia for doing it. That matters to the users, even if they falsely blame linux about it.

    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

    Completely ignoring the thread 🤣👌👍🤷‍♂️

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Oh sorry I thought you were an adult, my mistake.

    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    You're the one angry and completely ignoring the thread 🤷‍♂️ raging over the popularity of Windows making up excuses for third parties that don't make a difference for end users.

    Windows is popular. It will be popular until Linux desktop gets its shit together and gets rid of it's compatibility issues.

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Well, if you're complaining about how nvidia doesn't support linux, seems like it matters to their customers to me. Stop your crying about it then if you don't care so bad.

    nvidia gets its shit together and gets rid of it's compatibility issues.

    FTFY chump.

    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Not complaining. I use Windows for games. I don't deal with any of that right now. I'm stating reality. Again, you're off thread and just looking for an argument. Some how mad that I pointed out most users won't change a thing because of Linux challenges. Then starting on some off topic rant about Nvidia being assholes.

    Yes they are assholes. It doesn't change a thing and this enrages you.

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    I'm off thread? I'm directly responding to your comment, so you're off thread then. Guess you should stop commenting "off thread" lol.

    By "linux challenges," you mean "nvidia challenges." Again it is nvidia's fault whether you accept that or not. You're complaining about problems with nvidia and pretending they're problems with linux, I'm simply trying to inform you that you incorrectly place the blame on the wrong party, you in turn are being obtuse, this is a you problem lol.

    "The users" meaning "the company nvidia?" Because they're the only ones that need to change anything to support linux, linux users just use AMD or Intel, or one of the workarounds to get nvidia supported by the hacked together drivers that "the users" have made. It is nvidia themselves that prevent their hardware from running well on linux.

    I'm not enraged by nvidia, I just don't give them money, I use their competitors. I'm not even enraged by stupid people putting blame on linux or "the users" for something done by their precious god-company and then doubling down on being too stupid to understand why anyone would have the audacity to point out why you were wrong and misplace your blame, I'm not enraged at all, I'm laughing at you.

    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    What is that, how you masturbate? B/t thumb and pointer with the other thumb up your ass? 'Scuse me, I mean 👍🍑 maybe that'll help you understand.

    🥞🧀🍟🐘🐷🐽🐱🎎🎎🎃🧮🕯️💤

    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Back to your masturbation technique again eh?

    [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago
    [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 6 months ago

    Yep. I have a PC that was given to me by a friend, we aren't all able to afford the most FOSS hardware and software...

    [–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

    I don't even know what my display drivers are.

    They're handled and updated by the operating system.

    Once a week I check for updates, and click a button to install anything I want updated.

    I literally have no clue what you're talking about.