I know it’s a shitpost, but the idea behind something like this is counter to the point of rehabilitation. Civilization should move towards rehabilitation instead of punishment as the idea is that you want to integrate someone back into society. I am not sure inducing trauma and mental damage is conducive to rehabilitation.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 53 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Technology like this could actually be used to help the rehabilitation process by dilating time, and allowing the offender to be rehabilitated without actually wasting much of their actual life.

It would most likely be used for harsh punishment in this universe, but its nice to imagine living in a better one, sometimes.

[–] XM34@feddit.de 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm like 99% sure it would just make the time feel longer without any benefit of consciousness. Kind of like certain drugs make everything feel like it's slow motion, but you still don't get superhuman reflexes from them.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think you're exactly right. I'm not in any way qualified to make this statement but, if I'm right, you can't just make the brain "go faster" and get more useful time without time actually passing. Processes need to happen in the brain for thoughts to occur, and you'd have to somehow speed those up... I mean there are chemical reactions happening in your nerve endings, how are those going to speed up? Especially by a factor of >1000 as implied by the OOP!

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Processes need to happen in the brain for thoughts to occur

I disagree. I’ve had experiences far longer than their real life counterparts in dreams.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

It sucks that it would never be used for speed rehab and instead for eternal torture.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I don't think so. It probably just screws with the perception of time, I doubt it actually speeds anything up. If it did, we'd be able to use it for way more things than punishment, like for example, doing a deep delve into a subject in a matter of hours.

[+] Carlo@lemmy.ca 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

i'm not sure how this could really work. good therapy requires the person of the therapist, and it additionally takes place within the context of a client's living. are there therapists willing to give up subjective years over and over and over? how does the client try new things, gain understanding without the feedback of their life between sessions? also - therapists seek information and process their work with clients between sessions.

on top of all this, i'm not yet convinced this would be psychologically healthy for either.

[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

if someone could actually get new information and insight under something like this, why would we use it in a prison instead of putting people to study the whole of human knowledge and create demi-god wizards?

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So I was on a jury pool in December.

After the attorneys for both sides finished their dog and pony show, the judge himself made each of us answer the following question:

What is the purpose of criminal incarceration?

A - Punishment

B - Deterrence

C - Rehabilitation

After all seventy five of us had answered, all of us who responded with anything other than punishment were dismissed. Even those who answered a combination of the choices. Nope. Punishment was the only correct answer.

To my amusement, this barely left enough people available to fill the jury box.

I followed the case. Guy robbed a convenience store. No death. No injury. Got fifty nine years.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

That’s just emblematic of a broken justice system. We have to examine what is “justice” for any one case individually, and sometimes punishment may make sense, but even then its severity is determined by humane and ethical considerations. Justice systems can be reformed, the will to do so must be there—even if that means protesting till an objective is achieved.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It's not complete horseshit. The application might be, but the idea isn't.

I remember a Slavoj Zizek anecdote about it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know it’s a shitpost, but the idea behind something like this is counter to the point of rehabilitation.

Its counter to our understanding of entropy. Brains simply don't work like this.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071211233934.htm

Even though participants remembered their own falls as having taken one-third longer than those of the other study participants, they were not able to see more events in time. Instead, the longer duration was a trick of their memory, not an actual slow-motion experience.

Your memory is imperfect. But your actual capacity to perceive time is still limited by the facilities you use for that prescription.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One experimental result does not define the entire domain of consciousness.

You are essentially making a statement of the form “X does not and cannot exist”, which is always a logical fallacy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You are essentially making a statement of the form “X does not and cannot exist”

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This is a Family Guy meme.