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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My 750W ebike is restricted to 20mph (which I think is a good limit) and 1000W would still be useful for going more than 3mph up some of the hills here and I'm not even carrying much of a load (much lighter than the backpack I carried around in middle school - well, I'm on the bike and I'm overweight). And because of how heavy and how much rolling resistance it has due to larger tires, its slower than my acoustic bike at speed: I can only get my ebike up to ~28mph on flats and I can't maintain that for any useful amount of distance (well, long enough to make it to a light in time occasionally). Of course the ebike makes frequent acceleration easier. Which means I slow down more when passing people on an ebike than an acoustic bike, where I'd have to get sweatier on my way to work to slow down for them.

Maybe I just need to be banned from riding acoustic bikes because I'm heavy and go fast?

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Pictured: An Acoustic Bike

Whatever the fuck that means.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's a power/amp cord in that photo, clearly not acoustic. /S

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's the best real live photo I could find. Fuck AI

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A bike without electric assist.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh you mean Bicycle. The word we've had for over 150 years..

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ebikes are also bicycles. They just have assistance. Sometimes language gets updated to account for new technology.

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

"Acoustic" is just not an adjective that makes any kind of sense whatsoever...if you want to modify the language to better describe what you're talking about, at least pick words that make sense.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago

I didn't make up the language. Language doesn't have to be rational. /shrug

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The fact that you already used the work Ebike to mean electronic bicycle means we've already agreed on a naming convention.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago

EBike for electric, ABike for acoustic. Bike for both.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

1000W is the low end power output of a moped engine. At that point UK law gets quite clear on the requirements for use on a UK road.

My concern is, after a few accidents make the news, the government will have a knee jerk reaction against all ebikes. A middle ground between 250W ebikes and mopeds would take the risk off of all ebikes being regulated to death. It allows for slightly more regulations on more powerful bikes e.g. speed restrictors.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's a "this is why we can't have nice things" issue. People tearing down sidewalks on bikes are already a huge issue. People need to understand that the accessibility of these devices, combined with poorly implemented infrastructure, is the entire problem. Yes, all bikes on crowded sidewalks are dangerous, but the relative accessibility of ebikes means instead of a few assholes weaving in and out of pedestrians, you suddenly have dozens of them. It's not about speed, it's about the number of idiots doing something idiotic.

If you actually make an effort to separate pedestrians from cyclists, it's less of a problem, and growth of ebikes is a great development. But ebikes displacing and menacing pedestrians is not ok.